Heritage 80 serial number database / decoding the 4# digit sequence

[Strings Jr.]

Hi Strings jr., any idea why your serial number is not the same as on the guitar?

There were many duplicate 4 digit numbers within each model. Standard and Elite.

 

[GreenBurst]

There were many duplicate 4 digit numbers within each model. Standard and Elite.

Thanks for your input Strings Jr. Would you be able to scan your log book for the 4 digit# 0081 and share the s/n and model type for any hits? That would be much appreciated. Also, do you have any input to share on the 4 digit# stamping process for these models? It may shed some light on the duplicates issue. Thank you.

 

[Reflect_ion]

I found some pics of my first Les Paul, long gone now but it was my introduction to the dark side. Hope it adds to your database!

1980 Heritage Standard 80 #0209

Great thanks! It fits right in there (black dot)

 

[Reflect_ion]

Hi and thank you again for your detailed response.

I appreciate seeing my guitar included in your study as the oldest documented Elite so far. It’s quite interesting how the four-digit numbers don’t seem to follow a strict production sequence, though as you've noted, there may be good reason to believe these numbers were applied later in the process, perhaps during assembly or finishing. And by the way, if you knew how I came to own this guitar, it's quite a special story in itself, but I'll save that for another time...

Reflecting on this further, I’d like to propose a few additional thoughts and goals as we continue to explore these fascinating instruments:

1. Exploring other models with low four-digit numbers: It would be insightful to continue documenting models with similarly low four-digit numbers, which might help us confirm or clarify the theory that these numbers were applied out of sequence. Your approach so far has been exceptional in uncovering these patterns.
2. Considering special orders: There’s always the possibility that some numbers were reserved for special orders, as might have been the case with Les Paul’s guitar. This idea could offer an interesting angle to explore, especially if certain numbers appear outside the typical batch system.
3. Searching for internal records: If not already done, looking into whether any internal Gibson records exist that could shed light on how these numbers were applied or clarify the production timeline might be a valuable step forward.
4. Sharing new discoveries: Every new discovery could add more clarity to our understanding of this series. I’ll be happy to continue sharing any new details or models that might contribute to the discussion.

Thanks again for your work, and I’m looking forward to seeing what new insights come up as we dive deeper into this research.

Hi Ludo,

Curious about your story acquiring your Elite, this seems like the right place to post it

Those are all great suggestions and I'll be happy to add all "new" serials in my small database. However from my side it is now more reactive... I did one big search of all I could find back in August and it was quite some work.
But I do encourage to post all new serials and pics/links in this topic and I'll add it.

 

[boogieongtr]

I had an 82 Elite for about 10 years. I don't have the S/N.

 

[Strings Jr.]

I had an 82 Elite for about 10 years. I don't have the S/N.
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How could you ever let her go?!?

 

[Hamerfan]

Here is a 1982 Heritage Elite 80192521 with 1332.