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Greenybucker pickup set now available from Gibson.

jb_abides

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How did it take this long?

I think the strategy was to sell as many Greeny USA Standards first. We'll see if there's a Greeny Epi, they could have held these back until that sales cycle too.

Also of note and FWIW: there are more new designs on the store, new takes on hum-reducing P-90s like what's in the Billie Joe Junior, Kramer-era hot ones, etc.
 

zacknorton

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I kinda meant... Peter Green's guitar was a thing WAAAAAAAAAY before Hammett bought it.
I'm surprised the pickups weren't a purchasable item from gibson in the 90's.

Looking forward to hearing them!
 

jb_abides

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I kinda meant... Peter Green's guitar was a thing WAAAAAAAAAY before Hammett bought it.
I'm surprised the pickups weren't a purchasable item from gibson in the 90's.

Looking forward to hearing them!

Agree, one can critique Gibson on the dearth of pickup styles for a long long time, given their laggard activity actually made way for a bountiful cottage industry of pickup winders doing PAF variants, etc. That's a path not taken, they gave away a lot by missing that fork. Lots of market segments, dollars, and respect.
 

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might as well go with a SD Seth Lover 2 conductor set as they are also unpotted with Alnico 2 and this pickup has been around since nearly the dinosaurs.

I have a LP copy that has Honduran body/neck construction and a Braz 'board with an original to the guitar set of SD Seths, both the guitar and the Seths are circa 2000 and the Seths sound like a PAF 'clone' if you will.

No need for any Gib$on 'greeny' blah blah pickup shenanigans BS when you have the SD Seth Lover option, IMO ........ and the greenys are prolly made by SD. LOL


2000 SD Seth Lover neck crop.jpg
 
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zacknorton

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Yeah….But Peter Green and this guitar and those stock pickups….. it just seems like you’d want to capitalize on that.

I’m probably not going to buy a set but making that set of pickups seems like more of a no-brainer than the specific re-issue of “greeny” itself.

Glad it’s happening. ?????? hail Caesar!
 

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I think Peter Green is, unfortunately, not a well-known name outside of our guitar geek circles.
And...frankly...the uniqueness of that middle tone may have been put to good use by PG, but my guess is the overwhelming majority if Lester owners wouldn't care for it.
Maybe some would take it as an option, possibly available with a push-pull pot, but to have it as a replacement for the standard middle tone? Hard to imagine.
I imagine it would be sort of like a righty buying a lefty guitar and flipping it to do the Jimi thing.
In most cases it would quickly go from, "This is interesting," to "Hmmm...No thank you."
 

lure555

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I'm surprised they are becoming available so soon after the guitars. Kirk referenced an Epi version of Greeny in an interview, so that will no doubt be available soon. I was hot to get a Greeny, but generally don't like Standards for some reason. I'll probably consider a set for my next LP, whenever that may be. May choose the Gibson over the SD. Not sure.
 

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Maybe Gibsons thinking was that anyone wanting that sound would just flip the magnet in their existing pickup. Easy enough to do and certainly much cheaper.
 

Bryansamui

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Maybe Gibsons thinking was that anyone wanting that sound would just flip the magnet in their existing pickup. Easy enough to do and certainly much cheaper.
Just swap the wires around . Use ground wire as hot and hot wire as ground. ( Reverse coil direction)That's easier again. No need to take the pickup apart .
 

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Just swap the wires around . Use ground wire as hot and hot wire as ground. ( Reverse coil direction)That's easier again. No need to take the pickup apart .
Electronics is all smoke and gremlins to me, but I think this would put the pickups out of phase, resulting in a thin sound and big volume drop.
Flipping magnets is similar, but not as drastic in terms of what it does to the tone.
I think...
 

Bryansamui

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Electronics is all smoke and gremlins to me, but I think this would put the pickups out of phase, resulting in a thin sound and big volume drop.
Flipping magnets is similar, but not as drastic in terms of what it does to the tone.
I think...
Flipping the magnet is out of phase .I do the experiment from time to time (unfortunately) when inserting magnets on my Jimmy Page Madison Square Garden Pickups and testing prior to sale.Sometimes foolishly , they've been inserted wrong and I have to flip them back in phase .
It sounds the same to me . ( coil reversal vs Magnet)

As a side note, this 'coil direction' reversal method is exactly what Gibson did on the Jimmy Page CS guitar 2004 to get what Jimmy quoted was the 'Peter Green' sound..
Of course, this sound was never wired into to the instrument during the iconic Zeppelin years.
 

charliechitlins

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I believe you.
But...how come when one wires a pickup backwards, it doesnt get THAT sound?
Sometimes it just sounds thin, crappy and a fraction of the volume?
 

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I believe you.
But...how come when one wires a pickup backwards, it doesnt get THAT sound?
Sometimes it just sounds thin, crappy and a fraction of the volume?
Yes , I don't care for the sound either.I heard the real Greeny middle tone recently on YT Rick Beato channel being played by Kirk Hammett. Kirk thought it was wonderful, I thought it was thin.
 
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