Jimmy Page releasing Supro Replica with Margouleff and Colby... WOW!

[TM1]

Mitch has been a friend of mine for about 30 years, I heard this amp either Friday or Saturday at Anaheim. Mitch used his 59 slabboard Tele and it was all those great early Zep tones! Each input had a slightly different tone/sound. There will be Regular version later this year. But, really an exceptional sounding amp!

 

[becks bolero]

wow, that is pretty neat!

and I guess it puts an end to all the conjecture about "which" supro JP used at the time?

I have a 1624T, might try one of those speakers in it

 

[LeonC]

...And it can be yours for only 12,500 USD. Oops, sold out already!
I played it at the show with Mitch's 1959 Tele. Eight watts clean makes a lot of sense because it was real squishy when cranked.You couldn't gig with it unless mic'd.
Strictly bedroom or studio amp IMHO. Low end gets pretty farty pretty quick, but I guess that was the sound. Personally, I think more headroom would be a good thing.
Will be interesting to see how much the standard production line will be.

FWIW, that is NOTHING at all what a well-maintained vintage Coronado sounds like. There's no fartiness or squishiness in them! Easily loud enough to gig with; in fact I've gigged mine many times (and often been asked to turn down). While there isn't a great deal of clean headroom compared to BF Fenders with 2 6L6s, they're in a similar league with mid and early 50s tweeds. But they're very bright and aggressive, particularly the trem channel thanks to tiny coupling cap values and un-bypassed cathodes

The clean headroom thing is a bit deceptive though as Valco used linear pots in these amps so with the volume set at 9:00, it's probably close to a audio-taper pot being set at about 2:00; i.e., you'll run out of clean rapidly as you turn it up...but it's quite loud at that point. So you have to dial it in with your ears and not your eyes. I'd typically play through the normal channel with the vol at about 9:30/10:00 and use a Timmy set for clean boost if I needed more OD.

 

[janalex]

I think that loose tone and low gain must be the result of the impedance mismatch coupled with the intrinsic low headroom of the early power supply circuit assuming he had the 5V4/6L6GB circuit with low screen voltage from what I've learned over the last week. Likely this is why he seemed to use the amp with the Tele exclusively. I can't image how a Les Paul with hot PAFs would sound through it...

 

[becks bolero]

Leon I just listened to your clip above, that sounds great!

what was your wet rig?

also the 2nd tune ( after the jazzy intro ) what was that? a brian adams song?

 

[LeonC]

Leon I just listened to your clip above, that sounds great!

what was your wet rig?

also the 2nd tune ( after the jazzy intro ) what was that? a brian adams song?

Thanks, yeah, I played a little bit of Cuts Like a Knife.

My wet rig consists of an H&K redbox between the amp and speaker. That produces a line-level signal which I feed into an old Boss SE-70 signal processor. That produces stereo out which goes to a Stewart PA100 stereo power amp which then goes to two home-made, ported 1x10 closed back speaker (with Emi Lil Buddy speakers). Of course, the dry signal just goes through the redbox to the amp's internal speaker (Jensen P15P, IIRC).

 

[jwalker]

Here is my interview with Mitch Colby about the new Jimmy Page Signature Sundragon amp at NAMM 2019. We saw the amp first day of NAMM and they did not have a Tele there to demo it. But even with humbuckers I thought it had THE Page tone. I was impressed.

Matthew and I also give our first impressions of the Fender Jimmy Page Mirrored and Dragon Telecaster. Two interesting details about the Tele bridge pickup shown in the Fender presentation video at the Fender booth are the ceramic magnets on the copper plated steel bridge plate and the fact that the pickup in Jimmy Page's original guitar that they measure, is a grey bottom Tele bridge pickup.

 

[becks bolero]

that's cool Jon, thx for posting!

good to see they are making a Mex version of the tele...

I've always wanted to do a Syd Barrett tele with those mirrors, didn't know Page used them too

control panel on the amp appears the same as the 1624T? here is a shot of mine:

( ps I have a few of your pickups, they sound fantastic thanks! have also chatted w/you at the Parsons St Pilgrimage )

 

[LeonC]

Yup, on the original Coronado's the upper chassis was the same one as the 1624T. The circuitry is different though.

 

[becks bolero]

Thanks, yeah, I played a little bit of Cuts Like a Knife.

My wet rig consists of an H&K redbox between the amp and speaker. That produces a line-level signal which I feed into an old Boss SE-70 signal processor. That produces stereo out which goes to a Stewart PA100 stereo power amp which then goes to two home-made, ported 1x10 closed back speaker (with Emi Lil Buddy speakers). Of course, the dry signal just goes through the redbox to the amp's internal speaker (Jensen P15P, IIRC).

very interesting stuff, thanks!!

I actually have a red box here in a drawer somewhere, I may try something like that

 

[mistersnappy]

FWIW, the original Coronados used a pair of cathode-biased 6L6s rectified with a 5V4.

They did OEM some variants, like the Vega V70, which used 7027s and a 5U4, but was otherwise almost identical to a 1695T. Here's a video of my Vega, FWIW:

LeonC! Surprised to see you here! Your videos of the Brownface Deluxe were instrumental in me getting one 7 years ago (before the prices went thru the roof). I probably asked you a bunch of questions about it on Youtube. Thanks for thinning my wallet!

 

[LeonC]

LeonC! Surprised to see you here! Your videos of the Brownface Deluxe were instrumental in me getting one 7 years ago (before the prices went thru the roof). I probably asked you a bunch of questions about it on Youtube. Thanks for thinning my wallet!

Ha!!! OT but yeah, the 6G3 sure is a butt-kicker! I still have mine

 

[57Strat777]

$12,500 ?!?
LOL!

Gives me an idea for the Jimmy Page signature PAF pickup set.

"Limited to 50 sets! We worked with Jimmy Page to bottle only one limited edition liter of his sweat. Each and every one of our Jimmy Page PAF limited edition signature pickups receive no less than 12 drops of Mr. Pages sweat on each pickup assembly. The sweat is allowed to dry on the pickups in our special climate controlled laboratory using a secret process. Mr. Page's unique sweat has long been thought by experts to be responsible for Jimmy's signature PAF tone. Don't miss out! $5000 per set."

 

[becks bolero]

I'm holding out until the limited edition Dragon smoking suit!

 

[houndog31]

Supro's already been making this amp for a few years now ...

https://suprousa.com/1695t-black-magick/

 

[Professortwang]

The new Supro amps sound very little like the originals. I lost all respect for the company when I read about there construction on the website. They argue they chose to use PCB boards to improve reliability. Hand wired amps are infinitely more serviceable and reliable. They chose PCB to cut costs.

 

[LeonC]

Supro's already been making this amp for a few years now ...

https://suprousa.com/1695t-black-magick/

Not really, no. The company that owns the Supro brand name now can say whatever they want to say in their marketing materials, but that amp is a new model with a new design. It may be intended to reproduce similar tones to the amp JP used back in the early Zeppelin recordings...but it's not the same amp model. For starters, the amp JP used in the old recordings was a Coronado, which is tube (not SS) rectified, it's powered by a pair of 6L6s, not 6973s, and it uses three (not four) 12AX7s. So simply based on these factors...it's not the same circuit.

 

[becks bolero]

thx again for all your informative posts!

until now, nobody knew 100% what the deal with JP's amp was....so everything was conjecture

I wish Jimmy would write & record some more songs. He could also do a tribute blues album, pretty easy

 

[goldtop0]

I wish Jimmy would write & record some more songs. He could also do a tribute blues album, pretty easy

He's never done 'the blues' as such has he. I'd like to hear that from him also........his take on the noble art :2cool