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jimijam33

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All of them sound good regardless of a fretboard. That’s a hoax. Your sound good is not someone else’s. Not saying it’s gotta be ML to sound good. Any guitarist worth his salt can play a shitty Les Paul and you’ll say you want to sound like that. Your fingers and your picking hand will create the tone you want. It’s a bunch of bs. A guitar is simply a guitar. FR too many laid into it that that’s hwT causes tone. It’s the LEAST amount of the tone pocket. Period. Your hands and the amp has 95% of tone. The other 5% is in regards to the pickups

EVH put a PAF In a shit piece of wood and everyone wanted to sound like him and THEN? He changed the pickup And the necks a few times. Stop worrying about the guitar. It’s bullshit. Guitarists created the fallacy that a 59 is the cats meow. It’s not. It’s a rare guitar so it’s worth a fortune but ain’t no better sound than anything else. You want proof? The most expensive guitar ever sold was an acoustic played by Kurt Cobain. And many Fenders were sold much more than the Les paul. You can play? Or you can’t!

Laughable...................
 

J.D.

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Dave's has a bunch of nice looking ones.

The guitar vs player rant has been played out. Truth is, you can pay under a grand for a decent used guitar, do a bit of routine maintenance and throw in a set of boutique pickups and sound every bit as good as any historic. When people buy a historic, a good playing and sounding guitar is assumed. They are paying a premium for historical accuracy.

BRW is historically accurate, EIRW is not.
 

Red Baron

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An R4 is the least expensive carved-top LP that the Custom Shop produces. It makes me smile when I see these $20k '59 reissues and think about my R4, which I know would likely eat any of them.

Beautiful guitars though.
 

William Payne

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If gibson was to allow it with made to measure orders I would be inclined to just buy a chunk of brazilian rosewood with the proper papers and licences so that I had enough for whatever number of guitars I ever wanted. @matkoehler would be able to answer if that was allowed.

The custom shop seems to make guitars out of whatever a customer wants if they are willing to pay the money and wait so I really don't see why they wouldn't do it.
 

J.D.

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A full neck, yes.

A fretboard, not so much.
I disagree. Look at a neck cross-section. Fretboard is a very significant percentage of total wood. This affects neck rigidity. The frets are seated directly into this slab of wood. I can't imagine this piece of wood does not dramatically impact the sound of a guitar. Easy test is to swap a rosewood fretboard neck on a strat with an all-maple neck.
 

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jb_abides

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I disagree. Look at a neck cross-section. Fretboard is a very significant percentage of total wood. This affects neck rigidity. The frets are seated directly into this slab of wood. I can't imagine this piece of wood does not dramatically impact the sound of a guitar. Easy test is to swap a rosewood fretboard neck on a strat with an all-maple neck.

In context of the thread prior posts... Not with East Indian versus Brazilian on a LP, enough to impart a remarkable difference over all other factors at play on the guitar, was the point.

I would gladly have a pure rosewood neck, but a small slab of one species vacant versus another of the essential the same tone wood is not going to be detectable on the basis of that swap alone.
 
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William Payne

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Why, what's wrong with Bigsby?

Someday I might want to get a whammy bar, so Bigsby is not a good brand?

I think its just that most people don't buy les paul's with bigsby's. Not that there is anything wrong with the bigsby.
 

deytookerjaabs

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I have no beef with the price argument or the brazilian argument.

But the pictures on the website look like a big part of the aging is someone just tapping the top over and over and over with a nail punch. Maybe a couple old guitars look like that but it's not desirable at all and that's coming from someone who loves beat to death instruments. To each their own.
 

jb_abides

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I have no beef with the price argument or the brazilian argument.

But the pictures on the website look like a big part of the aging is someone just tapping the top over and over and over with a nail punch. Maybe a couple old guitars look like that but it's not desirable at all and that's coming from someone who loves beat to death instruments. To each their own.

Railroad spike, etc.

Tom's personal tool ki pictured:
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Wizard1183

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I have no beef with the price argument or the brazilian argument.

But the pictures on the website look like a big part of the aging is someone just tapping the top over and over and over with a nail punch. Maybe a couple old guitars look like that but it's not desirable at all and that's coming from someone who loves beat to death instruments. To each their own.
Did you not watch the Tom MUrphy video? 90% of the aging is from a stupid railroad spike. And so they casted the original one like as if it’s some holy grail aging tool. Dumb as shit
 

MarcB

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Nothing to see here.. I took my comments and stated a new thread.. as I’d like to know how you all feel about the topic..

Bonjour.
 
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