"Isbell's 'Red Eye'" Brazilian Murphy Lab released - $22k

[K Dub]

Usually these Collectors Editions look nothing like the original to me. I would rather have a nice Murphy Lab or Historic Makeover that I can play and make it my own.

 

[57gold]

I believe that Gibson has made LPs based upon Pagey, Frampton, Greenie, EC, Knopfler, Billy Gibbons...this guy Jason, who I have heard of but not sure what music he plays on his LP...I could give a crap. Some guys like memorabilia, trading cards, collectables, Franklin Mint, Bitcoin...

You don't want one, don't fricking buy one. Vote with your wallet.

 

[Wizard1183]

I’m buying all 59 of them to cause a monopoly

In reality this is just another ML guitar. Nothing special

 

[clapciadrix]

I’m buying all 59 of them to cause a monopoly

In reality this is just another ML guitar. Nothing special

Wizard, I’m just curious, have you held/played one? Thanks

 

[Wizard1183]

Wizard, I’m just curious, have you held/played one? Thanks

Not a 2023/24. But a ML yea. I went to Gibson Garage. Wasn’t impressed with one I played. The Brazilian Slash model which didn’t really sell well at all was better. But the 1st fret was dead as a door nail on that one.

Sorry, but feel of a guitar doesn’t make it sound good. If prices were not stupid? I may have one. But there is nothing Gibson produces today where I’d sell 3-4 Gibson guitars (one which is vintage) to buy it unless it was leaps and bounds better than what I own. And fact is? They don’t. I sound like me whether it’s a 10million dollar guitar or $1000 guitar. So $22k for JUST a regular reissue? Fuck no!

 

[clapciadrix]

Not a 2023/24. But a ML yea. I went to Gibson Garage. Wasn’t impressed with one I played. The Brazilian Slash model which didn’t really sell well at all was better. But the 1st fret was dead as a door nail on that one.

Sorry, but feel of a guitar doesn’t make it sound good. If prices were not stupid? I may have one. But there is nothing Gibson produces today where I’d sell 3-4 Gibson guitars (one which is vintage) to buy it unless it was leaps and bounds better than what I own. And fact is? They don’t. I sound like me whether it’s a 10million dollar guitar or $1000 guitar. So $22k for JUST a regular reissue? Fuck no!

Then I guess in reality you don’t know that the $22k is just another ML guitar. Nothing special. Right?
Nothing personal Wizard, but it gets a little thick around here with all the opinion slinging.

 

[Wizard1183]

Then I guess in reality you don’t know that the $22k is just another ML guitar. Nothing special. Right?
Nothing personal Wizard, but it gets a little thick around here with all the opinion slinging.

I do know it’s just another ML. ML is not better than a regular custom shop reissue. It’s the same thing other than the finish.

 

[Pellman73]

S a m e w o o d s a m e g l u e e q u a l s s a m e g u i t a r

Hang on JIM!

(braz ain’t same wood! And yet, there’s more (well not that much more. It’s pretty much the braz lol)

Hi everyone ! As Timbaland once said- Its been a long time!

So, I got one of these puppies. and I wanted to say I’m glad I did. I didn’t pay 22 for it, which was too much in my opinion, but I didn’t exactly NOT pay a lot of stupid money for it. And I”ll start by saying— YES! It’s stupid to spend that much money I guess. But, it’s a slippery slope! What’s stupid? What’s smart? Even something stupid today might be smart tomorrow and visa-versa!. And it’s a fine line between clever and stupid, and “what’s the matter with being Sexy (IYKYK). The bottom line is, really, what is it worth to the buyer, and do you have remorse?

When I got it, my only other les Paul was a 2016 CC 45 Dangerburst, and it was GREAT. (Now gone and sold. For a loss) Basically, it was a dirty lemon with true historic specs, but with the extra fun of being a CC. Great top, neck was more the chunky “58” style as it was an early 59, it was 8lbs shade under 10 oz. I’ve had a few great les Pauls over the years- ask Corpse! He knows. He’s been party to “All the Girls I’ve Loved!….. BEFOREEEEE”. That included 4 Gil Yarons, a Braz dirty lemon from that run in 2019? Let’s not talk about the real 58 Tv yellow Jr (aaaarrhhhhg), Some other custom shop r9s, a killer custom shop r9 that had the full shmere from Kim and them at HIstoric makeovers (its here somewhere)…. A CC Hank plank, a CC Nicky… Basically, I kinda suck as a guitar player but I’m probably a little better now and maybe I can appreciate things now I couldn’t before.

But I knew the girl I was looking for. Well I wasn’t looking, to be honest, this kind of found me. I was good w Danger, but we had arguments from time to time when things got heated. “YOU AREN’T BRAZ!” I’d say, then I’d have to come back and apologize and say “listen. I love you for you. I think you are the most beautiful thing I’ve ever seen (in real life).” But really, there was always the Braz thing hanging over our bed.

So— the dream girl needed to be Brazilian, like the 90s version of Giselle.

Well, at least the board needed to be braz. That might have been the one thing really missing from Danger. I ALWAYS loved the CC Red Eye, but some looked wrong, too red the eye, flame wrong— the red eye is more like, burgundy ish… anyhow I had def looked at some. I like covers on my pups tho I guess. I’m not a nudist. I’d guess that people who like their covers off also like running around naked. I’m a little more bashful I suppose. Actually when i got it the covers were off and I thought it sounded a little harsh and liked it better when I put them on.

I like the weight light. Closer to 8 than 9. It’s amazing the difference between 8lbs 10 oz and 8lbs 3 oz. This red eye was 8.3.

Neck profile I like .89 / .98 thing. I think that’s closer to the Nicky Neck. I really liked the Nicky Neck.

I like almost an un burst dirty lemon. This is like, a really beautiful dirty lemon but with a set of diamond studs or a pearl necklace. That’s what the red eye thing does. It adds something, its unmistakable, the story is fun, the provenance is cool with Ed King and then Isbel getting it after doing a bunch of bit coin gigs.

I’m particular about my flame. I think my favorite flame is the gull on Hotlanta. I don’t like downward chevrons. They look like Darth Vader’s frown. I don’t’ like huge gaudy flames. Super plain top don’t love but are cool. Nicky flame is about perfect to me. And the flame on the red eye is pretty great too… I like not too big, not too small I guess, but there, I like mineral streaks, I like interesting. This has that perfect just right flame. AND, honestly as a bonus there’s a little bit of gull happening by the knobs

So this thing is and was all those things….

now, not that i care too much but some of the case candy is an added bonus. That blue case is pretty cool, and the 1300$ strap w the red eye is right up there with the Dicky Betts Goldie strap that had all the beads and shit on it for coolness. It’s neat.

It sounds and plays great. Unpotted pups (add that to the list) I love- don’t really know why they ever got away from that. The Gil pups are the best I’ve ever heard and there is that transparency thing and these get close to that. The bridge is like exactly what you want it to be and the neck sound great, is tame and you can add gain to get that OOOOOmm thing.

Added bonus are the frets are the larger ones that were done on the refret and that’s GREAT. and they did put nibs on there which I like. I like nibs, I’m a nib guy.

So, I’m not saying it’s for everyone AT ALL. (This is for maybe someone who is new to looking at which les Paul to buy). It was for me— because of a very particularly set of skills, like Liam Neeson in Taken. I’d say if you want a great les Paul, shit, honestly the CC prices are dropping w some and getting the Greg Martin or even a Danger or a Louis or whatever— the less popular ones— You’ll save tons of money. The Murphy labs things are great. Shit probably a studio is great. Just a great R9 pre- Murphy labs… you can prob do great. But so far, and who knows because despite my being married for 24 years to the same girl I love em and leave em pretty chronically when it comes to guitars THIS ONE (for now lol!) seems like its really going to be a keeper and I”m loving it, and have no reGERTS.

NOW— my only complaints are I think they fucked up the ring around the collar on the pickguard. It’s not so pronounced on the real guitar, and my forensic examination suggests it’s larger and farther down. I’m not sure what else. Uddern that, I’m digging it. If people want to see pics someone ask and I’ll post em.

 

[jb_abides]

Uddern that, I’m digging it. If people want to see pics someone ask and I’ll post em.

Pics!

 

[garywright]

Yeah pman ..whip it out ( pix )

 

[Pellman73]

took one shot when I was putting the pup covers back on.
more better ones to follow.

 

[corpse]

what were the original colors- DW & zebra?
Don't lambast yourself- you just have more means than some and those recordings I heard were spectacular! You were def bringing it.
Ciao from Paduva.

 

[Pellman73]

what were the original colors- DW & zebra?
Don't lambast yourself- you just have more means than some and those recordings I heard were spectacular! You were def bringing it.
Ciao from Paduva.

thanks Jim!

here's a couple more. its a little cloudy right now

ya double white and zebra

 

[gary buff]

It's a beautiful guitar and I'd love to have it, reminds me of my orig. '59 caramel unburst from years gone by but it's much flamier. Would love to see/hear how it plays/sounds.

 

[CS Murphy 'R9]

I love it but I cannot see why it is $22K? Other than a Braz board it is a ML with the red eye's neck profile and body carve correct?
What is Gibson doing to these that jacks the cost up that much above a ML Light aged?

 

[jb_abides]

I love it but I cannot see why it is $22K? Other than a Braz board it is a ML with the red eye's neck profile and body carve correct?
What is Gibson doing to these that jacks the cost up that much above a ML Light aged?

They calculated a limited "Collector" edition of 59 pieces, Braz, special A2 zebra + double white CustomBuckers, selecting "close enough" wood like the CC series, and doing an accurate 3D scan plus labor for the emulation of the wear and dings in the relic-ing plus 2x Artist affiliation with the Protector case and unique case candy is 'worthy' of the uncharge.

Whether that's worth anything to you, they do have additional costs involved. Plus, they are MSRP at $22k yet selling for less according to reports from buyers.

They've been doing this forever -- look at the Rossington LPs, how they've arguably appreciated -- although they number in the 100s.

 

[CS Murphy 'R9]

They calculated a limited "Collector" edition of 59 pieces, Braz, special A2 zebra + double white CustomBuckers, selecting "close enough" wood like the CC series, and doing an accurate 3D scan plus labor for the emulation of the wear and dings in the relic-ing plus 2x Artist affiliation with the Protector case and unique case candy is 'worthy' of the uncharge.

Whether that's worth anything to you, they do have additional costs involved. Plus, they are MSRP at $22k yet selling for less according to reports from buyers.

They've been doing this forever -- look at the Rossington LPs, how they've arguably appreciated -- although they number in the 100s.

Thanks for the insight. At the end of the day my Heavy aged ML is more than good enough for me even if these are selling for $14K-15K. My ML was under half of that.

 

[gary buff]

They calculated a limited "Collector" edition of 59 pieces, Braz, special A2 zebra + double white CustomBuckers, selecting "close enough" wood like the CC series, and doing an accurate 3D scan plus labor for the emulation of the wear and dings in the relic-ing plus 2x Artist affiliation with the Protector case and unique case candy is 'worthy' of the uncharge.

Whether that's worth anything to you, they do have additional costs involved. Plus, they are MSRP at $22k yet selling for less according to reports from buyers.

They've been doing this forever -- look at the Rossington LPs, how they've arguably appreciated -- although they number in the 100s.

Where can you get one for less? Are you talking used?
Personally I don't care whose name it's attached to if it plays and sounds as good as it looks.

 

[jb_abides]

Where can you get one for less? Are you talking used?
Personally I don't care whose name it's attached to if it plays and sounds as good as it looks.

I've only heard tell of people visiting/calling the Garage and 'negotiating' ... I've not this tried myself.

I think the only way to get hands on prior to buying is to physically go to one of the Garages; alternatively, call them and take a shot. Also, I don't know their evaluation and return policy.

 

[Pellman73]

It's a beautiful guitar and I'd love to have it, reminds me of my orig. '59 caramel unburst from years gone by but it's much flamier. Would love to see/hear how it plays/sounds.

I'm working on a little demo...