DoubleBoogie
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Maybe you should read ALL the posts before repeating most of the mistakes (or maybe just post #93 by Bhodie).
And maybe you can say Mark knows his stuff - but not much about how Gibson have reorganized their custom shops in 2007 (and neither do you). That's evident to everybody.
Until this very moment you, mark and others have only said that there are lot of differences between the way they make ES-335 in Nashville vs. Memphis... BUT - nobody can tell specifically WHAT the differences in the way they build ES-335's are. What are they?????
I can show (on videos) hundreds of similarities - in fact only similarties. Even when they put the expensive Eric Clapton signature together. Nashville and Memphis share all materials (even the poplar core in the lamination) most hardware and all the machines used in the building proces - not to forget the COA and the Gold Warranty for Custom Shop Guitars. They also seem - from time to time - to share alle the issues such as delaminated bodies, twisted necks, oragnge peeling finish, and all sorts of other different issues more or less serious (I think the experienced Mark knows that too).
I do understand that people who have payed the tip of a F-16 for a Historic want's to believe every detail is made by hand by luthiers that arrive in busses every morning from good old Kalamazoo with their huge hand driven plywood presses, hot hide glue pots, violin makers hand tool, and original blueprints. But that's of course just wishfull thinking among Historic owners. Add to that, that the eldest employees these days in Nasville began at Gibson in the Norlin days - which we normally very much wan't to forget about. And the fact is of course, that Historics are build on an assemblyline with all possible processes automated - just like they do in Memphis (see the videos).
Anyway... It looks like you have the secret - please share.
Troels....I read your post to one of my dogs and just had to take a picture of his reaction to share with Angus and Bhodie. :rofl
You can try to argue all you want that the Memphis guitars are the equal of the Nashville historics, but the real facts are that they aren't. They are a lower cost production guitar and Gibson markets them that way. The resale market reflects this as well. The fact that they now have certificates doesn't change the fact that they sell both new and used for much less than the Historics. You might want to consider the argument that they are a better value, but not that they are the equal of the Historic. I can say with confidence now since I have played a bunch of both the Memphis guitars and the Nashville Historics that the Historics have ALL been better guitars in terms of both sound and playability. And IMHO, they are well worth the premium in price.