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Who made the "Deluxe" tuners after Kluson went under?

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So, I know Kluson went out of business in 1974, but I've been reading up on EDS-1275s and noticed they consistently used the "Gibson Deluxe" on-a-plate style tuners until as late as 1982. I know they had Schaller make those flower engraved tuners with a Kluson-esque back cover for a bit, but these look identical, with the engraved vertical lines, general shape of the cases and everything.

Here's a 1979:


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https://www.creamcitymusic.com/vint...75-double-neck-electric-guitar-walnut-finish/
 

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those are "gibson deluxe" made by Kluson.
 

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I guess my answer wasn't good enough?
 

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I guess my answer wasn't good enough?
It seemed like you didn't even read my question. I know they were made by Kluson; it's in the title and the post itself. Kluson went out of business in 1974 though. So how did Gibson keep putting them on guitars as late as 1979? I'd find it very hard to believe they had a massive stockpile, enough to last half a decade.
 

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A quick search tells me that Kluson stayed in business until 1981; Gibson, however, switched to Schaller in ‘76. For the last couple of years, the tuners were, to my understanding, made by Kluson, but marked “Gibson Deluxe”.

It’s perfectly conceivable that less used models like the strip tuners could last five years before running out - how many models ever had those? Gibson ran through their stock of more popular ones much faster.

A similar thing happened years earlier with the switch from single ring to double ring tulip tuners. Gibson ran out of nickel Kluson single ring tuners in 1960, but the less utilized gold ones lasted another couple of years.
 

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A quick search tells me that Kluson stayed in business until 1981; Gibson, however, switched to Schaller in ‘76. For the last couple of years, the tuners were, to my understanding, made by Kluson, but marked “Gibson Deluxe”.

It’s perfectly conceivable that less used models like the strip tuners could last five years before running out - how many models ever had those? Gibson ran through their stock of more popular ones much faster.

A similar thing happened years earlier with the switch from single ring to double ring tulip tuners. Gibson ran out of nickel Kluson single ring tuners in 1960, but the less utilized gold ones lasted another couple of years.
Damn, looks like you're right. I'd gotten the date 1974 from this website:


Which typically has reliable info on vintage Gibsons. I guess not in this case. Thanks!

On the gold plated parts, I know they lasted longer because Customs were produced in smaller numbers, but even then, only a year or two longer. A good comparison might also be pots, which we can track the lead time on thanks to the codes, and they rarely take longer than 1 year to be used.
 
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