Which do you think are the most important tonal qualities of a good Les Paul?

[garywright]

you can say that again ( and most likely will )

I wonder why we never hear cool stories on this site anymore?

make up some more ..pretty please

 

[jimmi]

Click the Google link for Beano and compare it yourself to the picture I took. Use what's left of your brain to compare yourself.

As for the other guitar in the picture; it's a fake counterfeit as verified by "Jimmi and Wilko on the internet"

Verified by you as fakes. You said so a few posts up

 

[delawaregold]

You would think by now we could tell



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[garywright]

A Doggy Poo

 

[renderit]

Looks to be slightly vintage as well.

 

[Wilko]

“…
The very best playing Les Paul of all (and it wasn't even close) happened to be a real 1959 Standard that was mis-labeled in the collection as a "2003 Brazilian board R9". Long story short the serial number is 9 0xxx so I showed him and explained "There's no way if this number is 0 it would mean 2000 at the very least, but this thing feels, sounds, and looks like the real deal".

Anyway he sold it to me for "2003 Brazilian board R9" value and the rest is history.

So the very instance of how I acquired my Les Paul to begin with, is proof enough that in a blind taste test one can pick out the real deal.”

Proof enough that one can’t pick out the real deal.

 

[KR1]

Exactly why I shouldn't have posted to begin with.

Edit: Heres the Googleable Music Zoo Link to Clapton 010 - it actually has a real PAF in the neck position, too. Forgot to mention Steve added that. A nice bright and strong one!

The burst has no online provenance and is thusly fake from here on out. Certainly my post count has cost me all credibility. It's a Fake everybody! The jig is up! Nothing more to see here. Move along.

ADP,

Objectively, based on your photo above, these guitars are recently made Les Pauls. Neither harkens from the 50’s, 1960, or later ‘60’s when the model was reintroduced. How important is that? ‘Depends- Are you buying, selling, playing, or whatever all of this is supposed to be?

No surprise: ‘Bursts are a very big deal in this group.

Just play ‘em.

 

[ADP]

All of this was, was a small social experiment. Now turn in your 'Burst Police badges.

 

[Wilko]

All of this was, was a small social experiment. Now turn in your 'Burst Police badges.

youre still here?

 

[jimmi]

All of this was, was a small social experiment. Now turn in your 'Burst Police badges.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(slang)

 

[Standard Magic]

Raunchy but not muddy.

I hear that the original PAF's were more darker sounding than people think, I wonder if this is the reason why PAF/LP imitations sound muddy, especially on Gibson USA's, manufacturers trying to go for that darker/warm tone?

 

[jimmi]

Raunchy but not muddy.

I hear that the original PAF's were more darker sounding than people think, I wonder if this is the reason why PAF/LP imitations sound muddy, especially on Gibson USA's, manufacturers trying to go for that darker/warm tone?

It is the opposite. PAFs tend to be brighter. Pot values on old gibsons also trend higher than the spec values.

 

[brandtkronholm]

All of this was, was a small social experiment. Now turn in your 'Burst Police badges.

But seriously tho, tell us more about your ‘Burst. Post more pictures.

 

[Jethro Rocker]

All of this was, was a small social experiment. Now turn in your 'Burst Police badges.

Cause this is the forum for such?? sheesh...
All that hyperbole and drama to end with No I don't own a Burst, I have a Chinese knock off.
Seems like a complete waste of time to me, what I bothered to read of it.

 

[delawaregold]

I feel so violated. This is worse than a Bud Light commercial.
Somebody owes me 20 minutes of my life back!

 

[Standard Magic]

It is the opposite. PAFs tend to be brighter. Pot values on old gibsons also trend higher than the spec values.

Yes, I've heard that as well (some say they're darker than you think and others say they're bright) and I believe that to be true, though I've only played 50's GT's and 335's but not bursts. It just seems that manufacturers want to turn everything dark.

I prefer a bright-ish neck pickup, I bought my R8 based on that.

 

[Amp360]

It has to be slightly chirpy but just enough to cut without being ice picky. It should have robust miss with Smokey, chocolate overtones, with a hints of fruit, lastly, it should not be fizzy and should maintain a warm organic presence when pushed. No ‘Tele on steroids” as I like my Les Paul to be GMO free.

This, my friends, is how all the “real musicians” I.e. obscure blooze players, rock stars from the 1970s, modern niche artists that nobody except for us weirdos on guitar forms, and “musicians” who bring $8000 of equipment to play for seven people at the local bar choose a LP.

I have no idea if you all are talking about guitars or some new age cafe with a fancy wine list.

 

[jimmi]

It has to be slightly chirpy but just enough to cut without being ice picky. It should have robust miss with Smokey, chocolate overtones, with a hints of fruit, lastly, it should not be fizzy and should maintain a warm organic presence when pushed. No ‘Tele on steroids” as I like my Les Paul to be GMO free.

This, my friends, is how all the “real musicians” I.e. obscure blooze players, rock stars from the 1970s, modern niche artists that nobody except for us weirdos on guitar forms, and “musicians” who bring $8000 of equipment to play for seven people at the local bar choose a LP.

I have no idea if you all are talking about guitars or some new age cafe with a fancy wine list.

Guys from the 70s and 80s chased tone also otherwise I wouldn’t have been pulling out stock Gibson and Fender pickups and putting in Duncan’s and Demarzios in the 80s all the time. Duane Allman even kept the pickups from his first LP and transplanted them in the next LP he bought because he thought they were special.

Many/most people can’t afford the real thing so there is a lot of thought going into recapturing as much as possible thus the analysis. Add that to the normal hand wringing over better sound and this is what you get

 

[Amp360]

Yeah, I get it, but at the end of the day, it's silly. I'm guilty of buying too much stuff, but the adjectives and descriptions are a little too much for me sometimes.

I like to play guitar vs. chasing the tone, but I understand some people like swapping things and upgrading. I think most of my favorite guitar players use/used equipment that the stores sold. it's nice to have choices but these days I just don't have the time/energy.

 

[Jethro Rocker]

The amp amd speaker combos make such a big difference, as long as it sustains and stays in tune / intonates well, the amp is the hugest part anyhow. Depending on one's style of course.