• Guys, we've spent considerable money converting the Les Paul Forum to this new XenForo platform, and we have ongoing monthly operating expenses. THE "DONATIONS" TAB IS NOW WORKING, AND WE WOULD APPRECIATE ANY DONATIONS YOU CAN MAKE TO KEEP THE LES PAUL FORUM GOING! Thank you!

The Open 'Burst Project

PixelBurst

New member
Joined
Apr 11, 2002
Messages
4,087
Would anyone be into developing a set of plans/blueprints for making a '59 'burst? Maybe those with original 'bursts can help contribute measurements and we can put together a PDF with plans and instructions on what it takes to build a nice 'burst for yourself. We could include recommendations on pickups and vintage style hardware as well.

As a graphic designer I'd love to put the PDF together and do all the vector illustrations for the plans.

Sound cool, lame, ridiculous? Please let me know if you guys and gals think this is feasable. I think it would be a fun and educational project.

Take care,

Brian aka PixelBurst
 

DOUBLEWHITE 59

New member
Joined
Nov 12, 2002
Messages
71
I think that is killer idea! Sounds fairly simple and straight forward. The only catch would be if Gibson would get pissy about people posting plans in pdf on the internet. That may be getting into copyright infringement area. Still sounds very interesting to me. (LPForum burst, the next Keebler)
 

PixelBurst

New member
Joined
Apr 11, 2002
Messages
4,087
Legal issues

I would not use the "Gibson" logo or the "Les Paul MODEL" logo in the PDF. Also, I wouldn't even use the term "Les Paul". We can just call it "The Open 'Burst Project, 1959" or something. This week I'll start to make some templates that can be downloaded so people can measure and post their results if they want to contribute. I'll draw the 'burst from all the angles I can get in Adobe Illustrator and post them as a PDF.

There are plenty of companies that make single cut LP style guitars. Is there some sort of time limit on the copyright of a given guitar design?
 

PixelBurst

New member
Joined
Apr 11, 2002
Messages
4,087
Already Done

Cool, where are the plans? I've never seen any online. I'd love to take a look at them.

My idea was just to make them free to everyone and update the info when new people contribute. Also add building tips for those DIY guys.
 

PixelBurst

New member
Joined
Apr 11, 2002
Messages
4,087
Excellent

Well I hope he does. I've read about proper measurements here frequently. It seems a lot of people here really know their stuff. I think it'd be awesome if everyone had access to that information.

I always thought Open Source software was a cool idea, it's be nice other things could benefit from that concept!
 

Dave Paetow

Les Paul Forum Member
Joined
Jul 15, 2001
Messages
13,524
John's blueprint is really nice, but a really in-depth blueprint would be cool, like the Stew-Mac '50's Custom blueprint, but make it right, unlike the Stew Mac '50's Custom blueprint which isn't even the right guitar (!)
It would be impossible to blueprint the top carve, as it would be hard to interpret the 3 dimensional aspect of it in a one dimensional medium. It would be nice to blueprint a specific burst, as there are so many variables. Do some cross sections of a Burst neck to show the profile at each fret would be nice, too.
 

Ed Rafalko

Les Paul Forum Member
Joined
Jul 15, 2001
Messages
6,287
It's easy to blueprint a top carve. Just use topographical projection.
 

PixelBurst

New member
Joined
Apr 11, 2002
Messages
4,087
Top Carve

Yeah, I figured that would be extremely difficult if not impossible. But writing some guidelines to creating the top carve is feasable.

The neck cross section idea is great!
 

Dave Paetow

Les Paul Forum Member
Joined
Jul 15, 2001
Messages
13,524
But that's not the same as actually seeing it and running your hand over the top carve in person to really understand it.
 

BluesForDan

All Access/Backstage Pass
Joined
Aug 31, 2002
Messages
6,775
I think it would be a great idea. hey, my sis still has her ex's wood workshop in the basement...hmm:hmm
 

heinz

Sonic Engineer
Joined
Jul 15, 2001
Messages
1,363
It is possible to map the top carve with Contour Lines, this is done by architects all the time to describe landscape topography.

Even easier and more effective, since the top carve is symmetrical a cross-section diagram could illustrate it pretty well.
 

Rich R

In the Zone/Backstage Pass
Joined
Jun 4, 2002
Messages
4,998
My opinion is that anything, like this project, which advances original 'Burst scholarship, is worthy of support--period. Why in the world would someone want to discourage this???

Pixelburst, if I can be of assistance with your project, please do not hesitate to let me know.
 
B

Bluejazz

Guest
Pixelburst, excellent idea. And I don't think using '59 Les Paul is a problem either, considering that you are simply identifying that which you are researching. If anyone balks at that, they lack common sense. Hell, I'd probably send Gibson the first copy, just so they know what's missing on the $5,500 R9's.
Good luck with your project.
 
Last edited:

plaintop

New member
Joined
Jul 15, 2001
Messages
9,591
I'm just going to pay the money to get it done right. I really don't care how to do it OR how it is done. I just want it. :)spin Top carve's are all pretty unique. I like a nice flat deck with a subtle dish. I think it would take a little bit of experience to do a top right, not to mention the REST of the guitar.

I'm not big on "roll your own" if you hadn't noticed. ;)
 
Last edited:

lpmaniac

Banned
Joined
Apr 26, 2002
Messages
2,370
I'm with Brian... having refinished a couple of guitars with great results it's satisfying to do the work, but build the whole axe? Carving, routing, measuring, etc., etc... even if you find the time to get it done, you still have to know a whole bunch more stuff to get it done right.

I'll pay someone too...my time is worth more than the satisfaction of saying... Geez, look what I did!

Imagine if it sucked?
 
Top