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Scroll Headstock Burst

Witchdoctor

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We've all seen this photo before. Aside from the other extremely interesting examples like the Bigsby'd cherry red one, the black one or the Mary Kaye GT, the one that I personally always found the coolest is the one in the bottom left corner. It has a Mandolin style scroll headstock.

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I can't recall much discussion of this guitar. Of course, any guitar from that particular collection is unlikely to have a ton of information available anyway, but there's (hopefully :p) no harm in bringing it up. What the hell, maybe someone here used to own this guitar. If anybody knows something about it or has photos please share what you know. I'd love to see it more closely.

Obviously that has to be a custom order at least, if not an employee guitar (if it is indeed factory). The fact that the headstock is unbound and has a crown inlay makes me think it actually is factory. Had it been a mod or something, it probably would have looked more like almost every other scroll headstock - guitar or mandolin - that we've seen i.e. multi-ply binding and flowerpot inlay. However this is purely speculation. I highly doubt that it's a fake, a guitar with a headstock like that would probably be looked at very very closely before dropping serious money on it. Plus, looking at other examples in that collection, there's obviously somewhat of an affinity for one-offs and oddballs.

Apart from this guitar, has anyone ever heard of or seen other examples like this? I mean Les Pauls specifically. There's photos of a Byrdland with a scroll headstock, albeit from 1980. I also recall a video from Norm's Rare Guitars where he's talking about one of his books and 'L4(?)'s with mandolin headstocks' are mentioned. Then of course there's the Ibanez examples, which like their Moderne, may have been modeled after/inspired by an existing example (God only knows if that Moderne is real, I think it is but that's another discussion).

Personally I love the look of that headstock on a Les Paul, especially without binding and with the crown. I imagine that, like the moderne, this is probably a love it or hate it thing.

I unfortunately do not own a copy of the Japanese version of BOTB but AFAIK the photo of Perry Margouleff in front of the wall of bursts is the only one where you can see that guitar, in other words, it doesn't have its own page (please correct me if I'm wrong). Also, if anybody could do a high res scan of that photo or that guitar in particular, i'd really appreciate it.
 
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goldtop0

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I think that's the Summersburst that Clapton had after Beano, it suffered a headstock break and had the mandolin style head grafted on as a replacement.
Drew Berlin has it now as I seem to remember. It has a write up in one of the Burst Believer books, maybe #2 or #3.
 

talonmm

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For those of us, a little new to the world of Bursts and Burst collecting, can those in the know, tell us a little about this collection and collector?

I believe that's Perry Margouleff in the photo and the collector is Dirk Ziff?

I'd love to know if Dirk is still collecting and acquiring bursts and any interesting details about his collection that members could share.
 

Witchdoctor

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I think that's the Summersburst that Clapton had after Beano, it suffered a headstock break and had the mandolin style head grafted on as a replacement.
Drew Berlin has it now as I seem to remember. It has a write up in one of the Burst Believer books, maybe #2 or #3.
If true, the bridge pickup, poker chip, guard and knobs are replaced. Could just be the photo but to me, the guitar in question looks slightly faded, which would rule it out as the late '60 that is the Summers' Burst. Hard to tell from the B&W photo though.
Also very interesting that Drew Berlin has it, The narrative I had always heard was that any burst that entered the vault had low chances of coming out again. Ed King's is the only example I'm aware of where that happened. If someone could post a scan of the Burst Believer pages in question I would very much appreciate it as I don't have any of the BB books. I have to say I'm slightly disappointed that it isn't factory lol. If it was, that would be the most interesting oddball burst I've seen.

For those of us, a little new to the world of Bursts and Burst collecting, can those in the know, tell us a little about this collection and collector?

I believe that's Perry Margouleff in the photo and the collector is Dirk Ziff?

I'd love to know if Dirk is still collecting and acquiring bursts and any interesting details about his collection that members could share.

Yes and yes.

I don't know if Ziff is still actively collecting though. As for details, other members would likely have more insight than me
 

sws1

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Also very interesting that Drew Berlin has it, The narrative I had always heard was that any burst that entered the vault had low chances of coming out again. Ed King's is the only example I'm aware of where that happened.

There have been some bursts sold in the past few years that I believe (or was told by people who know) came out of DZ's collection.
 

sweiger

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Great thread :)
But isn't it the Mary Ford Goldtop? (and not Mary Kaye as OP wrote)
 

Bruce R

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I would really love to hear of the current status of the "Summers" Burst. Anyone out there happen to know Drew?
 
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