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Lollar Firebird Bridge Pickup Comments

rabbit

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I apologize to anyone who has been waiting to hear back from me about the Bird PU. This post has been very delayed. As I said in a previous thread, there was some serious illness going on ( not me ) and then other things happened later, among them being that I am recovering from a really nasty stomach virus ........... boy, was that loads of fun.
On to the Lollar Firebird Bridge Pickup ---- in a nutshell, fine pickup but not what I was looking for. It's very bright and very clean, with great balance across the sonic spectrum. And, as others have noted, the highs are smooth ---- none of that harsh stuff.
No one here mislead me about it whatsoever. Everything that was said was accurate. gmann and Birdy, I don't blame you for really liking yours. Like I said, it's a fine pickup. It just simply turned out not to be my cup of tea. When you're talking about a certain level of excellence in a product like Jason Lollar and select others build, it becomes merely a matter of personal preference ( or what one can afford. )
As for myself, I'll be returning to my Duncan Antiquity II pup. I learned that it is the pickup for me. There were issues with some treble spikes, but I think I can take care of that. There was someone in another thread who was thinking about getting some Duncan Antiquities for their Firebird. I'll say this : as I repeatedly talked about above, it depends on what you're looking for. I described the Lollar as best as I could, and on other threads here, some folks who love theirs also gave descriptions of the sound. What I would say about the Antiquity is that it is much warmer than the stock ceramic pu that comes on the Bird, but it packs a wallop. A mini-bucker will always be brighter than a full-size humbucker, but the Antiquity ( at least through my amp ) serves up a strong, thick midrange. And that's my kind of tone.
On a final note, I have communicated with Jason about returning the pickup for a refund. Anyone who's ever talked with him knows what a super-nice guy he is. Anyway, in the e-mail he last sent me, he said that the mini-humbucker he makes ( with the adj. screws like for a LP Deluxe ) has "more bottom and snarl" than the Firebird pup. I thought that was interesting. He then said that the Firebird pickup was "almost like playing a Tele. " I agree with his description. I think it's an accurate one.
 
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Birdy

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Different strokes for different folks rabbit.

Tone is all about personal preference in the end man :note







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jeffc

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Thanks for the review. Food for thoughts !



Long live the bird !:headbange
 

rabbit

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You're very welcome, jeffc. And thanks for your comment ....... I was hoping it would be just that ( food for thought. )
 

gmann

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Sorry it didn't work out for you Rabbit. Different strokes right? Based on your review, I'm anxious to hear a Duncan Antiquity FB pup.
 

jeffc

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All these talks about the bird pickups got me interested. I have a fear though. You see, I have the stock PU and the RS trebele tamer made a nice improvement as far as using the volume and tone control. I can warm the sound by rolling back the vol. and the bridge pickup is a lot less spikey.

My fear is , If I go with the aftermarket, will I end up with a PU that has lost his "edge", that clarity, that bite, that the stock give me . Would I end up with a warmer pu but one that would sound closer to a smooth standard humbucker. I wouldn't want my bird PU to loose it's "signature sound" .

I would appreciate pickups that would have a better balance in the spectrum. Surprisingly enough, my pickups tend to "pass by" my little E string. That is something I would like to see corrected, and therefore all these infos are very usefull for me.

Anyone wants to chime on this ?


P.S. Please note that english ain't my first language, I hope I expressed myself clearly.
 

rabbit

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Your English is absolutely fine. I've never noticed anything "different" about it. I thought English was your first language.
What you've asked is a great question. I understand exactly what your concern is. Right now, unfortunately, it's late and I need to get in bed. Let me think on this, and if I can maybe give you a decent answer, I certainly will when I can. Maybe someone else can give you a good answer in the meantime -- probably better than I could.
Take care.
 

Coachmoe

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Rabbit,

I am going to try the Duncans this summer.

My FB V has the stock pickups and an RS treble tamer but it's still too harsh for me. I'm figuring since Duncans have the Alnicos, I will get that thick mid range tone that I love.

I've always said that a stock FB sounds like a Strat on steroids; clean but with more guts than a Strat.

Finally, if I can't get what I want with the Duncans, I may switch to Burstbuckers and ruin a perfectly good guitar.:wow
 
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rabbit

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Hey Coachmoe,

I hear ya, man ........ you're gonna get that fat midrange ONE way or the OTHER ! Ha, ha !

I LOVE a thick midrange. I agree with someone who once said that the midrange is where the tone lies.

Maybe the Antiquity will give you what you want. It ( along with my amp ) sure gave me what I was looking for and MORE. Honestly. The amp and then the pup actually exceeded my expectations, and that's saying a lot. I've been known to be picky about tone.

I wanted BIG, THICK, WARM, and WOODEN and I got it all. Man, I feel so fortunate.
 

rabbit

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jeffc ......

I'm still trying to think of an accurate way to reply to your question. I would not want to mislead you in any way.
 

andreja marovic

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I have several Firebirds.I want to change a PU on my Historic FBl ( one PU)
I have the same problem as you do people.Do not like the ceramic PU that came with the guitar.
So, what am I gona do?
If Franlins are like Tele PU and Antiquity's have a warm tone with midrange.
I will go for the second one.

The tone what I want is the tone Clapton had with his FBl....and this is no telly tone it's Cream.

Are there other than this 2 makers offering Firebird replacments?
 

rabbit

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Yep. Also, Kent Armstrong makes Alnico mini-humbuckers ---- both w/adj. polepieces ( ala LP Deluxe ) or without adj. polepieces ( Firebird-type. )

www.kentarmstrong.com
 

Coachmoe

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Rabbit,

Here's the info from the Kent Armstrong web site:

Alnico / D.C. =6.2k- A classic mini humbucker, the MFBV series uses an Alnico 5 bar magnet, and produces lower output than a stock PAF. This pickup is designed to cancel hum, yet retain a brighter sound than a stock PAF, with less midrange and a more single coil type vibe.

Doesn't sound like what we're looking for does it?

Also, the Di Marzio mini has a ceramic magnet like the stock pickups. I still think the Antiquities are the way to go.
 

rabbit

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jeffc,

Okay, here's what I have to say in addressing your concerns :

If you put in a Duncan Antiquity II to replace your stock bridge pickup, the signature Firebird sound will still be there ---- yes, the edge you talked about, with the clarity and the bite remaining intact. To me, the only differences are good ones which improve the tone while retaining the Firebird sound. The Antiquity won't be as hot and powerful as the stock pup, but it WILL be warmer. The highs should be smoother and the bottom end tighter, but there is PLENTY of bass.

You won't end up with a smoother, rounder tone more akin to a full-size humbucker. What you will have is a great Firebird sound.

And, as gmann and Birdy pointed out, ( this is VERY important ) just like with their Lollars, you really need to raise the pickup very high. If you don't, it is not going to sound right. Believe me.

I've tried to be as accurate with my descriptions as I could. I hope this helps you.

And andreja ........ I hope this helps you also. It sounds like you're after the kind of tone I was, and that I found with the Antiquity.
 
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