List of 2009 R9 changes

[Ace139]

Anybody else wondering if there are going to be any Murphy's? :hmm

 

[WDF1]

I talked to my local guy yesterday and got the price info. It's not that bad. I really doubt that Gibson would only make the 50th R9 for 09. That's a lot of guitars that will not be sold (money not made by Gibson). Logic would suggest that there will be the VOV R9, Gloss, and 50th for 09.

That was my thought as well, figuring that if I can't swing an anniversary that I might get a "regular" R9. He seemed pretty convinced that at least for the first half of 09 it would just be the 50th. I'm not saying that he's right, just passing along information from someone that is usually quite knowledgeable about custom Gibsons.

 

[Red Baron]

They give free tours with all you can drink beer.

Oh I like the sound of that! :jim

Their Purple Haze beer looks interesting :ha

 

[Tommy Tourbus]

what??!!! no hide-glue and still using a truss rod condom??!! Screw you Gibson! :wank

 

[Todd68]

That was my thought as well, figuring that if I can't swing an anniversary that I might get a "regular" R9. He seemed pretty convinced that at least for the first half of 09 it would just be the 50th. I'm not saying that he's right, just passing along information from someone that is usually quite knowledgeable about custom Gibsons.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see. All the dealers will be home and ready to order early next week. I'm just making, what I think is a logical assumption about the regular R9 production for this year. I just can't imagine Gibson turning away sales. I wonder what they have for VOS models at NAMM. I wonder how the 09 R0s will be???

 

[J.D.]

I really can't imagine Gibson leaving any unfilled orders open for 2009 R9s. While they will probably only make 500 of the special anniversary ones, I'd bet they have plans to sell more 2009 Les Pauls. In 2007 and 2008 I saw R9s in the 2000+ serial number range, so they are certainly capable of producing more than 500 units :jim

 

[mikeslub]

A lot of good changes. Very cool! :dude:

Thanks for sharing.

 

[55Custom]

R7, R8, R0 - were there none at NAMM ? Same spec sheet?

 

[GotTheSilver]

I am glad this thread got started, as it sounds like there are some very positive changes and that was not coming across in the other thread.

I do like the Heritage Cherry finish pictured on the Anniversary model on Gibson's website. That is a lot for me to say, as I really had never cared for the cherry burst LPs. I never really liked the "washed cherry" they have been using. Hope they continue this finish beyond the 500 50th Anniversary models eventually.

 

[bjm007]

Hey Chris! you cold yet?
The cavity routes are different inside,
switch cavity is true to spec.
channel cavity is true to spec.
cpa cavity is true to spec.
The pots, cpa are what is said, audio taper, BB's, and original big ground wire.
The pups (BB's) do sound alot better than in past.
With the nylon nut, you do get a certain "chime/ tone" with the guitar, in a very good way.
As I said before, as a guitar player, and just looking, playing the new/old R9,
it is a great guitar, a great playing guitar, a great sounding guitar. Alot of the above changes will be applied to the other reissues as well. Great improvements.

Now we're getting somewhere...

Thanks for the great info :salude

 

[zombiwoof]

Now if they'd go all the way and put 500k audio volume pots in all their guitars, not just the new R9's, they'd be taking a major step in the right direction!

Al

 

[55Custom]

switch cavity is true to spec.
channel cavity is true to spec.

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10) Back Control & Switch Plates: Proper material
11) Back Control Plate: Correct location/orientation
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How was all this verified?

So Historic plates can pass as vintage originals?

And the '09 truss rod cover can pass as a $400 vintage TRC?

 

[D'Mule]

How was all this verified?

So Historic plates can pass as vintage originals?

And the '09 truss rod cover can pass as a $400 vintage TRC?

55Custom,
It just must eat away at you every day that your "old" historic reissues have those nasty old plates and covers, and the cavities are all out of spec, and your neck pitch is all wrong, and the cap is too thick...:spabout :spabout :spabout

And replacing the fingerboard and inlays aren't going to help you with this.

How can you live with yourself?:hmm

Those "old" historics are going to be firesale material soon, I'm sure.:applaude :applaude

 

[MapleFlame]

Little things go a long way, but the changes that are needed can be as simple as reprograming a CNC machine with just a key stroke, hardly a cost factor. The top carve, the neck shape, knob placement, tailpiece placement etc... would be very easy to change. The pickups, order sand cast magnets, correct slug mags, the dark enamel wire, which bought in bulk from a manufacturer that would produce it again. The ability to sell pickups would increase by 3 fold. I am sure that Gibson could work with companies about the color of pickup rings, guards, and binding material. It's a matter of mixing the colors before molding. If Dave Johnson was able to have the same manufacturer that made the 57-61 inlays from that time period, "today" from a little R&D, why can't gibson do that with all the companies. Some of the things Gibson does seems like it isn't cost productive. The ABR-1 with no wire is cool, but the cost to have it remanufactured I am sure was high. The type of Nitro is prolly hard due to EPA, I totally understand that. Just some thoughts

 

[55Custom]

I understand the wishful thinking of Custom Shop enthusiasts, but claims are being made about the '09's that are as yet unconfirmed.

Also, according to a well known parts dealer, the back plate dimensions changed again between 1958 and 1960. So which dimensions did Gibson use and how was all this verified?

55Custom,
It just must eat away at you every day that your "old" historic reissues have those nasty old plates and covers, and the cavities are all out of spec, and your neck pitch is all wrong, and the cap is too thick...:spabout :spabout :spabout

And replacing the fingerboard and inlays aren't going to help you with this.

How can you live with yourself?:hmm

Those "old" historics are going to be firesale material soon, I'm sure.

That's the wrong answer. And, FYI the front of the '09 is screwed up. The more closely the guitar is examined, the more errors appear and claims of accuracy shown to be unsubstantiated.


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[mikeslub]

55Custom,
It just must eat away at you every day that your "old" historic reissues have those nasty old plates and covers, and the cavities are all out of spec, and your neck pitch is all wrong, and the cap is too thick...:spabout :spabout :spabout

And replacing the fingerboard and inlays aren't going to help you with this.

How can you live with yourself?:hmm

Those "old" historics are going to be firesale material soon, I'm sure.:applaude :applaude

I agree, it's killing him. He's been catatonic on this Board ever since word of the 2009's started coming out. He has to prove that the 2009's suck, and will succeed even if it kills him. :wah

 

[Axel]

How accurate are other Gibson reissues? I just want to know as a comparison. For example, are the Firebird/SG/LP Jr. reissues fully accurate or are owners of those models not as fanatic about details as owners (or owners to be) of R7-0's?

 

[55Custom]

I agree, it's killing him. He's been catatonic on this Board ever since word of the 2009's started coming out. He has to prove that the 2009's suck, and will succeed even if it kills him. :wah

That's the wrong answer to the questions I posed.

 

[mikeslub]

That's the wrong answer to the questions I posed.

I wasn't answering your questions. :wah

 

[skylabfilmpop]

Any news on amending the newer gummy finish??