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1964 SG Standard Pricing

yeatzee

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In the market, but a bit perplexed by the pricing and actual market value of a fairly good condition mostly original where it counts example. Dealer pricing seems to be shooting for the moon, but Reverb is showing very little action on the price guide. In the past 12 months only 3 sold, two for under $7k and one for $23k (?!?). Go back a bit further and you're in the $7.5-12.5k range, but according to reverb there were no sales in 2022(?!?) so who knows. Just curious for those that might have their ear to the ground a bit better then me, what seems to be the actual going rate? Specifically interested in the fatter neck era with the maestro vibrato.
 

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MarcB

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I’ve been looking at the vintage sg market for a few months now.. and I did also notice a difference in prices.. my take on it is .. it depends which era (obviously) and more so who is selling the guitar.
I’ve seen really good mid 70s one/two owner sg’s for around the £2.5/3k price range.. (with tar backs pups) which I would say is a very reasonable price.. but as soon as you get into the late 60s early 70s models the prices shoot up drastically especially the vibrola models..
I would wait until an original owner/seller sg turns up and try a do a deal.. better than via a store.
The market has slowed down for obvious reasons, so a (somewhat) bargain can be found..
 

glenngross

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FWIW, a known, knowledgeable vintage guitar collector that I trust valued mine several years ago before the onset of COVID at around $7500. It had a noticeable, stable neck repair, and replacement Schaller tuners. That was the approximate value that I used when trading it.
 

blewsbreaker

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SG's have gone through the roof. I sold my mint 62' with a sideways vibrola to a dealer for 30k a year ago. A clean 63'-64', with no repairs are 20k and (way) above all day long. Decide what you really want. There's a bunch of broken and messed up ones out there for much cheaper. I like clean guitars...
 

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yeatzee

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did you save any pix ? ..I’d like to see what ‘64s sold for $5k, 6.8k ?
I'm not aware of a way to open the listings on their price guide charts.
SG's have gone through the roof. I sold my mint 62' with a sideways vibrola to a dealer for 30k a year ago. A clean 63'-64', with no repairs are 20k and (way) above all day long. Decide what you really want. There's a bunch of broken and messed up ones out there for much cheaper. I like clean guitars...
Beautiful guitar! It does seem like a year ago was a higher point in priced than today, it's definitely softened a bit. I see the 64s listed for as you say in the 20s but I also see no sales, lots just sitting. Hoping to get more insight maybe from someone that recently purchased one to see what the real range is. We all know dealers ask for crazy prices, but with common models list vs sale can be quite different.
 

blewsbreaker

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I'm not aware of a way to open the listings on their price guide charts.

Beautiful guitar! It does seem like a year ago was a higher point in priced than today, it's definitely softened a bit. I see the 64s listed for as you say in the 20s but I also see no sales, lots just sitting. Hoping to get more insight maybe from someone that recently purchased one to see what the real range is. We all know dealers ask for crazy prices, but with common models list vs sale can be quite different.
So, a clean 63'-64' with that awesome 59' style neck is gonna cost you at least 20k. Just keep in mind the sales that Reverb lists are sales through Reverb. I found my mint 64' through Reverb, but made a deal outside...??
 

yeatzee

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So, a clean 63'-64' with that awesome 59' style neck is gonna cost you at least 20k. Just keep in mind the sales that Reverb lists are sales through Reverb. I found my mint 64' through Reverb, but made a deal outside...??
What about with a heel crack like they almost all seem to have?
 

ScumbackSpeakers

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SG prices are all over the map these days. I've seen completed auctions for 62-65 SG Specials from $9,222.00 USD for a really dinged up white 62 Special. Heel repair, gouged finish, mods, etc. I find that Gruhn appraisals aren't quite up on the actual selling prices. I had my 61 SG Special appraised at $5000, while reverb prices are nearly double for completed sales. Go figure. Here are 3 of my 6 early 60's SG's.
 

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yeatzee

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I don't buy broken/repaired guitars but heel repair for me is 50% off.
SG prices are all over the map these days. I've seen completed auctions for 62-65 SG Specials from $9,222.00 USD for a really dinged up white 62 Special. Heel repair, gouged finish, mods, etc. I find that Gruhn appraisals aren't quite up on the actual selling prices. I had my 61 SG Special appraised at $5000, while reverb prices are nearly double for completed sales. Go figure. Here are 3 of my 6 early 60's SG's.
Seriously, I've never felt more lost about value of an instrument as I do vintage SG's. Especially because they, more than any other model, are riddled with repairs be it heel or headstock.
 
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