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angus99

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Bhodie said:
Double Boogie.. Love your blonde too.. It seems to have a lot of grain definition where mine is a little more subdued.. saw your avatar.. thought you might like to see of pic of the hound I keep away from my stuff.. And he is only 7 mos. old! heheh.. came with a saddle.

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Nice pooch!

Since this thread has gone to the dogs--or blonde ES 335 owners who also have a dog-- here's the guy on my avatar: meet the real Angus.

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sharq attaq

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Well, hell!

Why didn't they just leave it Gibson USA?

They went and got people all pissed off at each other about this.
 
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sharq attaq said:
Well, hell!

Why didn't they just leave it Gibson USA?

They went and got people all pissed off at each other about this.
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For further confusioning.... Gibson USA still exists - in Nasville actually - for even more confusioning - making LPs and SGs :) :) :)
 
Bhodie

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DoubleBoogie said:
Cool dog! Is that a young Dogue de Bordeaux??? :)
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Yes.. Rocky, the "Hooch" meister himself.. Insanely cool dog.. can only describe him as "majestically goofy". Yours looks like a ridgeback the best I could tell...

(PS. Sorry to hijack a guitar thread for a dog.. but hey, love them both, and like you said.. this thread has now officially "gone to the dogs"!)
 
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Bhodie said:
Yes.. Rocky, the "Hooch" meister himself.. Insanely cool dog.. can only describe him as "majestically goofy". Yours looks like a ridgeback the best I could tell...

(PS. Sorry to hijack a guitar thread for a dog.. but hey, love them both, and like you said.. this thread has now officially "gone to the dogs"!)
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Cool dogs...I ahve heard that about their temperament. Just to set the record straight, mine are Bullmastiffs and not Ridgebacks like Angus. Angus..Is your dog a champion yet? Do you show him or do you have a handler?
 
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Plek...

I sent my Memphis made 335's serial number to Gibson customer service and asked if its been pleked. ALL Custom Shop guitars are pleked. Nashville & Memphis. They started doing this in early 2007. My 335 was made in early 2007, right around the time they started doing this. They couldn't tell me if it's been pleked or not.
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Thanks. I didn't realize they had changed. I checked in 2005 or 6 (can't remember) and only Historic reissues got the plek treatment.
 
Wallace

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I see. That would explain why on some sites they have short guards and on others long guards (they're both not historics :fc ).

- Following the ES product line is becomming too dificult to remain enjoyable.
I wish Gibson would thin the heard and make it clearer - or if it is clear I wish someone could explain it to me so as I can navigate my way through the too many ES options already out there :jim
 
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Wallace said:
I see. That would explain why on some sites they have short guards and on others long guards (they're both not historics :fc ).

- Following the ES product line is becomming too dificult to remain enjoyable.
I wish Gibson would thin the heard and make it clearer - or if it is clear I wish someone could explain it to me so as I can navigate my way through the too many ES options already out there :jim
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It is confusing for sure. As for the long guards, they show up on the 58 Reissue, the 59 Historic (both made in Nashville) and the Fatneck which I think is made in Memphis if I am not mistaken.
 
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DoubleBoogie said:
Cool dogs...I ahve heard that about their temperament. Just to set the record straight, mine are Bullmastiffs and not Ridgebacks like Angus. Angus..Is your dog a champion yet? Do you show him or do you have a handler?
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Ahh.. got confused, .. Nice Best Of there for Angus! I don't show Rocky, though he comes from a pretty good lineage.. Just going to (ahemmm shhhh.. remove some delicate parts) let him be a great family dog.. here is his "handler"

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That's right. But Gibson used to call the reintroduced in 1981 (the one that moved to Memphis in 2000) ES-335 59 RI as well, actually. The original dot necks were made between 1958 and 1961 (or so... no flames please...) and I think Gibson call all ES-335 dot's 59 RI's because the dots related to the early years of 335's... :)

I bought a 2001 ES-335 seven years ago and it said (hand written) ES-335 RI 1959 on the (by then yellow) label. But they may have stopped using that term except for the Historic...
 
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It's all over the place with the nomenclature and it doesn't help that each of the "Big Box" dealers uses only parts of the Gibson description in their own text.
 
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Troels said:
Gibson call Memphis a Custom Shop. And the guitars coming out there are called Custom Shop guitars. It cannot be discussed. It simply studpid to go on with that discussion. But - please feel free to have your own personal world order. As long as you don't hurt anybody.

And - as I've said before - it's all a matter of words and which words that catch our brain. You can call a guitar "Historic" even it isn't like ES-335 Historic - if it catch your brain it becomes your mantra. It's just about how good sombody like Gibson for instance is to make you believe in the words. You believe very much in the word "Historic" in combination with the words Custom Shop and Nashville - and at that point your brain for unknown reasons stops receiving inputs. And it becomes important for you that people with a different views only are trolls... if you understand. Things becomes the truth for you because they unreflected turns your brain on. Other people (probably with higher intelligence) don't stop there. They are able to open up their minds and receive new inputs - even if they are conflicting with a locked up picture of the world they can accept and understand changed ideas of just about everything.

Finally - this Custom Shop discussion is NOT a personal thing for me. I'm close to couldn't care less. But a guy asked here - and I quoted the written material I've got from Gibson and their website. And then another custom brain threw in a different - but wrong - version of Gibsons way to organize their Custom Shops - amusingly with you as a willing choir. But it's not difficult to find out how things really are. Everyone can do that (except maybe you...).

My main Gibsons are build in Kalamazoo (a town in Michigan unless you believe it's in Arizona :) ) but I do have a LP from Nashville and a 335 from Memphis - but only for live gigs as I don't like to bring out real vintage guitars on the road. But I do have fun with the old guitars in the studio (a place were people are recording sounds).

...and the Troll-thing... it's unfortunately not a new joke but I do of course respect it as an excellent snd highly intelligent argument in a discussion. unfortunately you are just repeating someone else (again) including their misspelling :)

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This rambling doesn't make much sense to me, sorry. :hee
 
Wallace

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Gold Tone said:
It's all over the place with the nomenclature and it doesn't help that each of the "Big Box" dealers uses only parts of the Gibson description in their own text.
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This in a nutshell is the problem I'm having. It's not easy or straightforward identifying who has got what and for how much?
 
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J.D. said:
This rambling doesn't make much sense to me, sorry. :hee
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hmmm... neither didn't Gibsons homepage, their warranty cards or their certificates - so I didn't expect that anyway. So let's leave it there. It's all a matter names on a couple of factories - and as you have said yourself - there are good and bad guitars from both camps. That I would never deny. As lovers and players of Gibsons there must be some agreeable subjects :) maybe we should find some...
 
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Gold Tone said:
It's all over the place with the nomenclature and it doesn't help that each of the "Big Box" dealers uses only parts of the Gibson description in their own text.
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I really think that Gibson should be MUCH MORE clear about which words to use. They do keep a "secret policy" in a degree that they almost can't navigate between them themselves.
 
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