thin sissy
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Thanks for the info! Are they "tight" to turn or easy? If you could, how would you compare them to old Centralabs?
I have some on order... I'll update y'all once I've had a chance to pop them in... :jim
That's very cool...please do tell us when you have tested them!
Few questions...
So these are made by clement and bournes as the literature seems to indicate?
One thing I learned is that the taper of the originals, which these repros are attempting to replicate, are more drastic than the US counterparts (which I assume he means CTS). Yet in the case of RS superpots for example, they say it was made because they found the CTS pots too steep and drastic and thus their final taper is between let's say cts audio and linear. Very confusing. What gives?
As of now, for me gibson historic audio tapers post 09 have been very good and plenty useful for my needs. All clock around 500k, and are quiet and clean up very well loud fuzzes and loud amps.
After quite a bit of time since this thread started, I still am not seeing where anyone said, "____ brand/model pot performs exactly like an old Centralab."
I don't have issues with the feel or taper of any pots on any of my guitars. I've only heard rumors that Centralab pots in the 50's were a key part of the sound.
I seem to get all the benefits people talk about when using 50's wiring in either my LP or Tele. So if there's any extra "secret sauce" to Centralabs, I'm all ears. Yet for more than 2 years, folks have mentioned they were going to buy ____ pots and see if they stack up to Centralab, yet no report after to say what their findings were.
Will we ever know?
After quite a bit of time since this thread started, I still am not seeing where anyone said, "____ brand/model pot performs exactly like an old Centralab."
I don't have issues with the feel or taper of any pots on any of my guitars. I've only heard rumors that Centralab pots in the 50's were a key part of the sound.
I seem to get all the benefits people talk about when using 50's wiring in either my LP or Tele. So if there's any extra "secret sauce" to Centralabs, I'm all ears. Yet for more than 2 years, folks have mentioned they were going to buy ____ pots and see if they stack up to Centralab, yet no report after to say what their findings were.
Will we ever know?
Ed: The TVTs are not bad and the Historic Spec pots are decent. The problem is that none of these pots will SOUND like the Centralabs. There is an airy quality to them that modern pots can't duplicate. From what I've learned, the Centralabs had lead mixed into the carbon track. Don't know the percentage, but it was enough to add lubricity and longevity to the final product. That's why they've lasted so long. In my opinion, while they can get the taper very close, it's still not exact, and these new pots will have more lower midrange. Just the nature of the beast, unfortunately. All this clicked into place when I added an original Centralab harness with real Bees to my Historic Makeover. It now has a completely vintage electronic component chain. Those pots made it sound as if a blanket had been removed from the guitar. An astounding difference.
As to the amount of torque, that's another thing modern pots seem to not be able to do. DeOxit will make them spin a lot easier, but they never lose that slight tugging feel. Again, the old pots win.
I just installed a set of these pots with some NOS Sprague matched BB's , the sweep on these pots is smooth no hot spots . From 1-10 a real gradual climb . You can really dial the tone, IMO the pots really opened up the guitar . The best 100.00 I've ever spent really happy with the result !
I completely agree. Eventually they will be installed on all but my vintage guitars.
WOW! I just got a set of long shaft and short shafts from these guys. They are very expensive ($25 each as opposed to 12 for very good over 500 rated) but man! These are the highest quality pot I have seen by a WIDE margin. The build is superb. Super smooth. One pot was 501K the others were all 510-513! Consistent as heck. Don't know how they sound yet but these make every other pot I have played with including the old ones look and feel like a steaming turd! Way to go el84ster! Though I am SURE you got no useful advice from me you are my hero!
i just ran into this thread while searching for info on replacement pots. I was shocked when I went to the above website (tubes and more) and noticed that the price on these PEC pots a has doubled!! WTFO??