What came with your 94-95 Historic?

[trapland]

I'd like to know what case candy and in fact what CASE folks got with thier 1994-1995 R9's and R0's Can anyone help? I'd like to get a concensus of what is "correct" from that era.

Thanks

 

[trapland]

Anyone? I've read the sticky, but its not there.

 

[MikeG59]

I'd like to know what case candy and in fact what CASE folks got with thier 1994-1995 R9's and R0's Can anyone help? I'd like to get a concensus of what is "correct" from that era.

Thanks

earlier 94's had a certificate, pink canadian case with the blanket (best case made)

 

[Drew224]

mine is an imaginary '94 R9 that came with an imaginary case, and a roof over for it for the price I paid.

 

[trapland]

earlier 94's had a certificate, pink canadian case with the blanket (best case made)

Certificate? I thought those didn't start until 4-5 years later? I agree about the case, best made.

What hang tags, etc?

 

[trapland]

One more bump. Is the lack of response because its a moot question? Or is it because few have one?

Thanks

 

[Zoomer]

I'd like to know what case candy and in fact what CASE folks got with thier 1994-1995 R9's and R0's Can anyone help? I'd like to get a concensus of what is "correct" from that era.

Thanks

You get Historic replica tags, orange "Gibson String" tag, regular old warranty and inspection sheet and brown/pink case. No certs back then I have two 1995 R9's and 2 1997 R8's though opinions vary I have never played any that come close to these. My 2003 Stinger and R9 brazilian pale in comparison to the quality and feel of these guitars.

If you want I can post a pic of the stuff for you.

:2zone,

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[trapland]

Thanks Zoomer! I'd love a detailed pic of those tags.
I'm looking at a couple guitars that are NOS and want to make sure I get all the stuff.

I too feel the mid 90's was gibson custom shops finest hour.

You get Historic replica tags, orange "Gibson String" tag, regular old warranty and inspection sheet and brown/pink case. No certs back then I have two 1995 R9's and 2 1997 R8's though opinions vary I have never played any that come close to these. My 2003 Stinger and R9 brazilian pale in comparison to the quality and feel of these guitars.

If you want I can post a pic of the stuff for you.

:2zone,

Zoomer

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[denwing]

Click on either of the two '94s and you'll see some of the goods.

http://www.trademarkguitars.com/electrics.htm

 

[Zoomer]

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[MikeG59]

One more bump. Is the lack of response because its a moot question? Or is it because few have one?

Thanks

Mine had a few basic Gibson hang tags and a COA full size. early 94 serial # 9 403X

 

[lpcust]

My RO 0 5008 had the brown Canadian-made case with "blanket" as well as the candy in the above pic. No COA. The top carve was very cool; Murphy is quoted as saying it's his favorite.
It was a wonderful guitar, but my '06 R9 sounds better to my ear.

 

[2muchmb]

One more bump. Is the lack of response because its a moot question? Or is it because few have one?

Thanks

It's not like there are a lot of them around, and not that many owners seem to come around any more.

As far as I can tell, there was virtually no consistency in what came with the guitar- not like throwing a plastic bag labelled with the guitar type in the case pocket, as Fender was doing at the time.

As you can see, even the pics in the link with guitars that were made very close together contain different items. There wasn't much more, if anything, than you see there.

Yes, I have seen pictures of some early '94's that had certs, but not all of them do. Of the later ones, most, if not all, don't have them. Gibson was also unable or unwilling to provide them afterward and even claimed they never had to begin with.

And until now, I've never seen one that has a Historic Collection sticker on the back of the headstock. Perhaps, they were using up certs and stickers from '93 and ran out. No idea. I didn't follow them before or afterward.

Changing the machine that carved the tops was the last thing Tom did before he left, and it was after he had stopped painting. He prefers the revised style and feels they are more correct. Since the top contributes to the sound, it's not just cosmetic.

As for the paint, whoever took over was good, too, because the guitars are indistinguishable by paint. But don't believe me, check the web for comparisons. The later ones are arguably undervalued since they're identical in materials used, and the tops are perhaps more accurately carved.

This is in no way to diminish Tom's contributions and skill. It's the other way around. It's a testament to what he achieved at Gibson and to his desire for continuous improvement.

 

[BLUESKYZ]

It's not like there are a lot of them around, and not that many owners seem to come around any more.

As far as I can tell, there was virtually no consistency in what came with the guitar- not like throwing a plastic bag labelled with the guitar type in the case pocket, as Fender was doing at the time.

As you can see, even the pics in the link with guitars that were made very close together contain different items. There wasn't much more, if anything, than you see there.

Yes, I have seen pictures of some early '94's that had certs, but not all of them do. Of the later ones, most, if not all, don't have them. Gibson was also unable or unwilling to provide them afterward and even claimed they never had to begin with.

And until now, I've never seen one that has a Historic Collection sticker on the back of the headstock. Perhaps, they were using up certs and stickers from '93 and ran out. No idea. I didn't follow them before or afterward.

Changing the machine that carved the tops was the last thing Tom did before he left, and it was after he had stopped painting. He prefers the revised style and feels they are more correct. Since the top contributes to the sound, it's not just cosmetic.

As for the paint, whoever took over was good, too, because the guitars are indistinguishable by paint. But don't believe me, check the web for comparisons. The later ones are arguably undervalued since they're identical in materials used, and the tops are perhaps more accurately carved.

This is in no way to diminish Tom's contributions and skill. It's the other way around. It's a testament to what he achieved at Gibson and to his desire for continuous improvement.

RE: The Historic Decal....If I recall correctly, based on a conversation w/ Tom Murphy .... they just simply ran out, he wanted more but it just didn't happen ...................

BTW......I love the Murphy 93, 94 Historic LP's, there is just something about them!

As far as COA's go, I have a Tom Murphy signed COA w/ a 1992 '60 Reissue. I think COA's from the early years were just hit and miss, no consistancy!

 

[2muchmb]

Interesting. Thanks for the info, loudiv.

 

[trapland]

Thanks guys for the great info. I'm pretty stoked about the 95 R0 I'm getting. The dealer seems to have lost the hang tags, if he ever had them. I verified with Gibson that he is the original dealer, but little details like keeping tags and stuff aren't too important to him. He has had it for almost 14 years after all!

Another month or so and the NOS 95 R0 comes home! Then I start on the NOS 94 R9 complete with historic decal on the back!

 

[MikeG59]

when i bought ny 94 from Bob Cannon in 94 (9 403X) he had three, one earlier # and one later # i dont recall. the other two had the decal and the one i chose did not but had a certificate, greenish paper if i remember. here is the guitar

It's not like there are a lot of them around, and not that many owners seem to come around any more.

As far as I can tell, there was virtually no consistency in what came with the guitar- not like throwing a plastic bag labelled with the guitar type in the case pocket, as Fender was doing at the time.

As you can see, even the pics in the link with guitars that were made very close together contain different items. There wasn't much more, if anything, than you see there.

Yes, I have seen pictures of some early '94's that had certs, but not all of them do. Of the later ones, most, if not all, don't have them. Gibson was also unable or unwilling to provide them afterward and even claimed they never had to begin with.

And until now, I've never seen one that has a Historic Collection sticker on the back of the headstock. Perhaps, they were using up certs and stickers from '93 and ran out. No idea. I didn't follow them before or afterward.

Changing the machine that carved the tops was the last thing Tom did before he left, and it was after he had stopped painting. He prefers the revised style and feels they are more correct. Since the top contributes to the sound, it's not just cosmetic.

As for the paint, whoever took over was good, too, because the guitars are indistinguishable by paint. But don't believe me, check the web for comparisons. The later ones are arguably undervalued since they're identical in materials used, and the tops are perhaps more accurately carved.

This is in no way to diminish Tom's contributions and skill. It's the other way around. It's a testament to what he achieved at Gibson and to his desire for continuous improvement.

 

[mingus]

I've had two '94 R9s. One was part of the Murphy run and had no certificate. The other was made in December of '94 (post Murphy) and had all the case candy including a COA that matched the hang tag (serial # and date of manufacture). Oddly, the COA was properly filled out and dated, but never signed. I don't think there were any hard standards in those days. They made what they could and got them out the door. The wood they used in those early years is spectacular.