question about juniors

[Al Russo]

i'm curious about the non adjustible bridge. How is it possible to intonate them?...If ya just gotta go w/it as is i was wondering if there are aftermarket bridges that are fully intonatable...thanx.

 

[Tom Wittrock]

For the most part, they intonate well enough for many players.
But there have been good replacement tailpieces for these for decades now.

 

[Al Russo]

hey..thanx for the answer...am i correct in my understanding that u can't intonate the factory bridge?..i've seen pics of them and the bridge looks to me as if you can't make any adjustment on em....

 

[Tom Wittrock]

hey..thanx for the answer...am i correct in my understanding that u can't intonate the factory bridge?..i've seen pics of them and the bridge looks to me as if you can't make any adjustment on em....

There are set screws at each end, so it can be slightly intonated.
Thousands of guys have played and loved Juniors with little or no real problems from intonation. But not everybody is happy with that bridge. And luckily there are several nice replacements [with individual intonation adjustment] made that require no modification.

 

[Al Russo]

There are set screws at each end, so it can be slightly intonated.
Thousands of guys have played and loved Juniors with little or no real problems from intonation. But not everybody is happy with that bridge. And luckily there are several nice replacements [with individual intonation adjustment] made that require no modification.

thanx bro...i appreciate it...i've been a huge 70's era leslie west fan. I loved his tone w/the juniors....

 

[sonar]

The B string can get a little funny on the upper frets, but not enough for me to start screwing around with bridge replacements.

There has actually been a swing back to simpler bridge designs in recent years. Some believe less moving parts result in better resonance and will take the trade-off with exacting intonation. Take a look at PRS or some of the Gretsch aftermarket enthusiasts. Even Wildwood had a run of CS Les Paul's with humbucker's and bar bridges.

 

[frazettafan]

This one from "Pigtail" is superbly crafted and feather-weight:

 

[zombiwoof]

I'm getting this one, it's made in Germany by ABM and distributed by Allparts:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/360129037783?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

I've also read positive reviews on it by a few users. This particular one is made for slanted-TP guitars, they (ABM) also make a version for guitars that have a straight TP (like the current production Juniors and older Gibsons that used the Lightning Bar bridge/TP). The straight version may be harder to find, I don't think Allparts carries that one.

Al

 

[j45]

This one from "Pigtail" is superbly crafted and feather-weight:

I didn't realize you had this rig Mike. The Cornell 20w is one of the first amps I intend to buy when I'm ready to jump back in the gear thing. That pair just has to sound great. Have you trid a UA or Faustine with the Cornell?

 

[frazettafan]

Hi Kerry, yes I have had this set-up for quite a long time now. It sounds pretty good. The Cornell is a great sounding amp and I don't know why more people don't use them? Quite expensive but worth it IMHO. It's incredibly loud for 20 watts but you can knock it down to 5 and you have valve and ss recs. to play with also. I never tried it with the attenuators you mentioned - that might be worth a go as even set at 5W it's deafening! I'll look in to getting an 'Ultimate' maybe soon?

The Junior is just beautiful to play with a great natural tone - I play it acoustically quite a lot. Sometimes I find these guitars lack a bit of power in the upper-register but not this one - it's up there with my '59 Junior in every respect. It has a "Shed Pickups" hand-wound P90 on it.

PS, Kerry - I think your email may have been hi-jacked. I got a spam email from it last week? Just thought I'd let you know.

 

[Kris Ford]

PS, Kerry - I think your email may have been hi-jacked. I got a spam email from it last week? Just thought I'd let you know.

Yes, me too, for VIAGRA...lol

 

[frazettafan]

That's it Kris, I was just too embarrassed to say it. :dang

 

[j45]

Yes, apparently I've been selling everything from viagra to cheap life insurance, again.... This happened a while back, don't ever open supiscious stuff, I don't know. Changed password, upgrade security and seems to be gone...for now. Loved the UA with my 2061x Mike, don't see why it shouldn't be great for the Cornell. When I return to using a Marshall sound it will be another 2061x or the Cornell with a UA. I had a chance to play the Faustine and it was even better than the UA but for the money vs. tone ratio I'll probably go with a used UA. I felt like it made my old '67 50w plexi obsolete for most practical purposes these days and would have never thought I needed better at the time.

 

[frazettafan]

Thats interesting as I had a '65 JTM 45 when I had my 1961 Junior and this present set-up is I feel even better than that. It's loud enough to gig at most venues and the other plus is that this (1964) Junior has a slightly fuller neck profile which I prefer to the really skinny '61.

I A/B'd the Cornell with three original late sixties Marshall 20W heads when I bought it - they were all pretty much all the same price but the Cornell honestly sounded better - especially at the more saturated distortion end of things. I went against my usual bias towards vintage that day and bought the Cornell.

I'll get me a UA, Kerry - I'd be very interested to try this out as sometimes the Cornell is too loud to use in a small pub.