Les Paul Custom 1975 refinished loosing value ?

[Naldarinho]

Pfff in every

“The seller is a friend of mine but he has a limited knowledge as well cause he bought it from internet” ..yet he is in possession of it ..is this a joke …so he bought it with no Gibson knowledge as well ? …who’s to say he wasn’t sold a fake ..can’t help you here

In every Forum the same and same toxic environment. It is better to say all of you that you do not know, rather that making 20 questions and still being at zero . It's a guitar of 1975 refinished. You try to jump into conclusions about chibson etc, just to avoid answering cause you are irrelevant. Are you supposed to have any knowledge and you cannot even answer 2-3 of my questions? I asked what happens with norly period, I took nothing . I provide you with many details what guitar I wanna buy and still you cannot just give a from - to . You answer nothing cause simply you don't know... Its ok... But you do not know.

And what you mean by that? Yes yes and yes. My friend bought a guitar from internet like many people do. He knew the guitar was refinished and he didn't have any problem with that. What is the problem you cannot understand???

 

[Naldarinho]

The case is not if it is a Gibson or chibson. I asked a Gibson custom 1975 refinished, how much it cost. If you know the answer, you answer. I didn't ask to give me authenticity sign...

 

[garywright]

I am sorry we wasted your time ( and ours )

 

[bluesky636]

The case is not if it is a Gibson or chibson. I asked a Gibson custom 1975 refinished, how much it cost. If you know the answer, you answer. I didn't ask to give me authenticity sign...

Good luck with it.

You failed to provide any useful information that would allow anyone to put a value on this guitar. You know nothing about Gibson guitars by your own admission yet you get bent out of shape when people ask questions to try and understand what you have. The guitar is supposedly owned by a "friend" yet you can't/won't get photos. Why should we believe anything you say?

Done wasting my time.

 

[garywright]

Pfff in every

In every Forum the same and same toxic environment.

If that’s the case it sounds like you’re just plain dumb and have a history of showing it

 

[gitmohair]

Pfff in every

In every Forum the same and same toxic environment. It is better to say all of you that you do not know, rather that making 20 questions and still being at zero . It's a guitar of 1975 refinished. You try to jump into conclusions about chibson etc, just to avoid answering cause you are irrelevant. Are you supposed to have any knowledge and you cannot even answer 2-3 of my questions? I asked what happens with norly period, I took nothing . I provide you with many details what guitar I wanna buy and still you cannot just give a from - to . You answer nothing cause simply you don't know... Its ok... But you do not know.

And what you mean by that? Yes yes and yes. My friend bought a guitar from internet like many people do. He knew the guitar was refinished and he didn't have any problem with that. What is the problem you cannot understand???

As others have commented, you're giving us nothing actually useful to go on. On the basis of the information you've provided I wouldn't touch the thing with a barge-pole, plenty of other stuff out there. I don't suppose this helps you much either as it's not the "right answer".

 

[Wilko]

too many variables to give a value. what do we know? you claim it to be a '75. In 1975 there are a lot features and two factories that mean that a '75 could be valued very differently. Pickups are gone, again two different pickup possibilities that have different values as a starting point to start subtracting. Mahogany or maple neck. Stamped serial, oval, sticker?

Refinished why? Headstock break? Neck joint break? This is the first year for "rocker tenon": I owned one that failed... etc.

Pics? detailed shots of neck pickup cavity. Control cavity. Back of headstock/serial number, etc.

 

[bluesky636]

too many variables to give a value. what do we know? you claim it to be a '75. In 1975 there are a lot features and two factories that mean that a '75 could be valued very differently. Pickups are gone, again two different pickup possibilities that have different values as a starting point to start subtracting. Mahogany or maple neck. Stamped serial, oval, sticker?

Refinished why? Headstock break? Neck joint break? This is the first year for "rocker tenon": I owned one that failed... etc.

Pics? detailed shots of neck pickup cavity. Control cavity. Back of headstock/serial number, etc.

All these points have been raised. OP is nonresponsive.

 

[Naldarinho]

As others have commented, you're giving us nothing actually useful to go on. On the basis of the information you've provided I wouldn't touch the thing with a barge-pole, plenty of other stuff out there. I don't suppose this helps you much either as it's not the "right answer".

This answer is more helpfull than all the others given. I think I provided the best of info but here most people are insteresting more in gossip and scuttlebutt thank actual helping. The info is there

1) gibson les paul custom 1975
2) change of pups to be more metal with fishman pickups
3) refinished and now in mint condition with nitro paints.

This info are more that enough for someone who knows. I ll give you in a minute an example of an appropriate answer . Not for you . Generally

 

[Naldarinho]

too many variables to give a value. what do we know? you claim it to be a '75. In 1975 there are a lot features and two factories that mean that a '75 could be valued very differently. Pickups are gone, again two different pickup possibilities that have different values as a starting point to start subtracting. Mahogany or maple neck. Stamped serial, oval, sticker?

Refinished why? Headstock break? Neck joint break? This is the first year for "rocker tenon": I owned one that failed... etc.

Pics? detailed shots of neck pickup cavity. Control cavity. Back of headstock/serial number, etc.

This is a good response thank you . Pickups have been changed and the currect owner has bought the guitars with seymour duncans . So we dont know what pups was originally came. Refenished to refresh the colour and not because of any break. I am seeing there are a lot of parameters and I didint know it. I do not have pictures of the guitar. Otherwise off course i should upload them. Something that many cowboys and uneducated people they cannot understand is that the owner is a friend of mine . And when someone is a friend you must act with some kindness and with some tact. Not like he is a scammer. So firtsly I tried to walk around and gather some info but living in the shadows. I know for some people's mind all those are like einstein theory to them , but ok , i can live with this. I thought it was easier.

Allthough with that answer you gave me I realised . But that is why I am asking for a from-to. I mean all those differences can give various price tags with more tha 1500 euro difference ? From example if with all those variations the custom of that period are from 4000-4500 euros I can understand that this guitar is now about 1000 euros down so the real price should be arounf 2800-3300 euros. I know there are a lot of parameters but are so crusial to change the game and the one guitar to be costed 4000 and the other 7000 ? I am not an expert but I doubt...

 

[bluesky636]

This answer is more helpfull than all the others given. I think I provided the best of info but here most people are insteresting more in gossip and scuttlebutt thank actual helping. The info is there

1) gibson les paul custom 1975
2) change of pups to be more metal with fishman pickups
3) refinished and now in mint condition with nitro paints.

This info are more that enough for someone who knows. I ll give you in a minute an example of an appropriate answer . Not for you . Generally

You are a real piece of work. I can't wait to see what you consider an "appropriate answer".

Tell you what. Offer your "friend" 2000 euros and let us know what he says.

 

[bluesky636]

This is a good response thank you . Pickups have been changed and the currect owner has bought the guitars with seymour duncans . So we dont know what pups was originally came. Refenished to refresh the colour and not because of any break. I am seeing there are a lot of parameters and I didint know it. I do not have pictures of the guitar. Otherwise off course i should upload them. Something that many cowboys and uneducated people they cannot understand is that the owner is a friend of mine . And when someone is a friend you must act with some kindness and with some tact. Not like he is a scammer. So firtsly I tried to walk around and gather some info but living in the shadows. I know for some people's mind all those are like einstein theory to them , but ok , i can live with this. I thought it was easier.

Allthough with that answer you gave me I realised . But that is why I am asking for a from-to. I mean all those differences can give various price tags with more tha 1500 euro difference ? From example if with all those variations the custom of that period are from 4000-4500 euros I can understand that this guitar is now about 1000 euros down so the real price should be arounf 2800-3300 euros. I know there are a lot of parameters but are so crusial to change the game and the one guitar to be costed 4000 and the other 7000 ? I am not an expert but I doubt...

Wow. Asking a "friend" for photos of something you are asking people's help with pricing on is too much to ask. Unbelievable. And you call us uneducated.

You were asked questions by people who know many times more about these guitars than you will ever know and you refused to provide useful answers. These are questions that would be asked of anyone looking to place a value on a potentially expensive purchase. No one is singling you out or picking on you. But you insist on insulting the very people that are trying to help you.

Now, where did they hide the "Ignore" button?




Oh. There it is. Buh bye. Have fun with your "new" guitar. Hope your "friend" is as honest as you think he is.

 

[Naldarinho]

For @garywright and @bluesky636 you falied misserably to wellcome and keep in community a new member. As you can see above there are actually educated people that can talk and being nderstood by other people by talking kind and with obvious trying to help. So for your help I ll provide a template of how you may answer in future situation

Hello Aris ,
At first wellcome to the club of customs either you buy this custom or not. So there a plenty of parameters that can identify the price of a custom guitar cause Gibson every year was changing luthiers , factories specs etc. Elements like year produced , pickups , Stamped serial, oval, sticker , neck material etc can play detrimental difference to price. Even though some images could be very helpfull , I can understand that for your reasons you may not want to upload any pictures , I can say that a refinished custom losses about 30% of the original price. So the norlin customs of that era normally are beeing sold of about 4000-4500 euros i could say that this guitar if the new finish is perfect is being price tagged of about 2500-3500 euros.


So study this template , and try to answer like that like the other guys above . Do not cound on the actual prices. They are irrelevant. Just focus on the basic thinking of being kind and not being sarcastic.

 

[garywright]

shud ya pie-hole ..we attempted to help you but you failed on your end.

 

[garywright]

Wow. Asking a "friend" for photos of something you are asking people's help with pricing on is too much to ask. Unbelievable. And you call us uneducated.

You were asked questions by people who know many times more about these guitars than you will ever know and you refused to provide useful answers. These are questions that would be asked of anyone looking to place a value on a potentially expensive purchase. No one is singling you out or picking on you. But you insist on insulting the very people that are trying to help you.

Now, where did they hide the "Ignore" button?




Oh. There it is. Buh bye. Have fun with your "new" guitar. Hope your "friend" is as honest as you think he is.not

Wow. Asking a "friend" for photos of something you are asking people's help with pricing on is too much to ask. Unbelievable. And you call us uneducated.

You were asked questions by people who know many times more about these guitars than you will ever know and you refused to provide useful answers. These are questions that would be asked of anyone looking to place a value on a potentially expensive purchase. No one is singling you out or picking on you. But you insist on insulting the very people that are trying to help you.

Now, where did they hide the "Ignore" button?




Oh. There it is. Buh bye. Have fun with your "new" guitar. Hope your "friend" is as honest as you think he is.

that’s because he’s well ..challenged..the post from “Aris”is much too general while we tried to help him with the particular guitar he’s referring too ..which by Navaho’s posts alone I’m now 110 % certain is a Chibson

 

[bluesky636]

that’s because he’s well ..challenged..the post from “Aris”is much too general while we tried to help him with the particular guitar he’s referring too ..which by Navaho’s posts alone I’m now 110 % certain is a Chibson

"Aris" hasn't posted here since Dec 14, 2008. No posts from him come up. No idea where that post came from. Magic? No member by that name on the other Les Paul forum.

 

[garywright]

possibly Aris is Navaho..either way I do hope he sticks around to learn more or at least provide some entertainment

 

[bluesky636]

possibly Aris is Navaho..either way I do hope he sticks around to learn more or at least provide some entertainment

I have him on ignore so I don't care what he does.

 

[garywright]

I have him on ignore so I don't care what he does.

I just did the same

 

[bluesky636]

possibly Aris is Navaho..either way I do hope he sticks around to learn more or at least provide some entertainment

Funny he would pick the name of a former member who hasn't posted in 16 years and whose posts appear to no longer exist.