Historic electronic stuff

[XOSKELETAL]

I just checked out the electronic stuff (sorry, but I don' know dick about the terminology, and I've had a few Grey Goose martinisspin ). If it's supposed to be historically accurate to the PAF's and the 59, how come the electonics are different then my 57 GT???? The transistor things are different. I don't get it. Wouldn't that change the tone, etc.???????

 

[Marshallhead]

did you buy them both new?

if so what years are they?-i'm assuming that you mean the capacitors in the control cavity right? my y2k r9 has the stock orange disc caps-i'm going to upgrade the pots and caps with real 50's stuff (or good late model 500k pots would suffice)as i've heard its a huge tone improvement-that and some pickups too-party on XOSKELETAL-im right there with ya:lol2

 

[XOSKELETAL]

Marshallman, I'm comparing an original 57 Goldtop with presticker HB's to my 2001 R9. My dad bought the 57 in 1960. Check out the electronic stuff. You'll note that there are two jacks. My dad added a 2nd b/c he was young and crazy. You can tell which one is original. But, the black cylindrical (sp?) things with the colorful stripes are not in the Historic. What's up with that?????

http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/xoskeletal/vwp?.dir=/guitars&.dnm=P8280041.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t

 

[Ed Rafalko]

Gibson never said these guitars would be histortically accurate to the originals, you know. They just implied it.
And even if they DID say they were, they were talking about construction details like the long tenon and 17 deggre headstock angle, not the electronics. Hate to say it but your R9 isn't even wired thesame way as your 57 is- look carefully, you'll see that the tone cap comes off the volume pot and goes to the tone pot on different lugs.
They don't make bumblebee caps any more, they haven't for 35 years. The pots are'nt the same either. electrically your R9 has a lot more in common with a Production Standard than your orignal GT.
Yer a lawyer, so sue them for false representation.

 

[Marshallhead]

yep

those are black beauty capacitors made by sprague and along with the pots and such except for added jack are the real deal-thats what im getting tomorrow from a friend-all the pots,wire and caps-that is sweet the real 57gt-how do the 2 compare?

 

[Marshallhead]

good day EdR

Hows the fever?

 

[Ed Rafalko]

I think I'm through the worst of it, thanks for asking. The chills/fevers are getting less severe .
and teh best signb is that the sore throat's much better. I should be over it by the time I get outta bed tomorrow.

 

[XOSKELETAL]

Re: yep

that is sweet the real 57gt-how do the 2 compare?

I just got the 2001 R9 2 weeks ago, and today was the first day I really go the chance to let go loud. The comparison, from my useless, tone-retarded ears will come in a thread later. Preliminary opinion, the 57 has a depth that the R9 doesnt. However, the R9 sounds better then I expected. Unfortunately, my 92 LP Custom, right now, is lacking.

Thanks for the info dude:dude

Ed. I already have a complaint drawn up against Gibson. Misrepresentation, misappropriation, misogeny, misallocation, and any other "mis" I can think of. I will make them pay for my emotional distressspin So, you "have the fever . . . for the girl." What song is that from Einstein fever boy?????

 

[Ed Rafalko]

Miscongeniality?
As for the song, you're making it up.
Too make Grey Goose Martini's, lawyer-man.
And I've had one too many Nyquil cocktails. Gnight everyone.

 

[XOSKELETAL]

Miscongeniality?
As for the song, you're making it up.
Too make Grey Goose Martini's, lawyer-man.
And I've had one too many Nyquil cocktails. Gnight everyone.

It's Bruce Springsteen, "The Fever." Nite, nite fever boy