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Gibson firebird I 1964 pick up vs firebird cs Clapton 2020

Crossroads88

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Hi all,

hope you can help me with the following. I am obsessed with EC tone Firebird I 64.

saved some money and doubting to buy a vintage FB 64 or a cs fb ec 2020 ( the limited run of 100) .

I had hoped Gibson would have exactly recreated the fb I 64 pick up. This seems not to be the case.

so than I was thinking buying a vintage FB I 64. But a vintage FB 64 will have 56 year old pick ups. What to expect from electronics do Old. I can imagine it will not be the tone of FB I 64 in 68/69.

what do you think?
Regards,

cr88
 

Tommy Tourbus

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Actually, get a 2 pickup Firebird. I had a I and a III at the same time for a bit, both Custom Shop reissues, and ended up selling the I. The I and the bridge pickup of the III solo'd sounded nearly identical, and the Firebird neck pickup is amazing. The neck solo'd or combined with the bridge in the middle position are both amazing sounds. There's no advantage to having a one pickup bird over a two pickup model. For reference, I had a Novak in the I and a set of Kleins in the III.
 

Crossroads88

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Thanks for your responses. Now decided to go for a epi fb hb. This is to be had < 900 usd. Will try some boutique pick ups and will get familiar with the sound. Will than compare with vintage 64. On reverb it is written tat vintage 64 fb go for approximately 6k usd. However, now seem to go for minimum 13k usd.
 

Crossroads88

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Actually, get a 2 pickup Firebird. I had a I and a III at the same time for a bit, both Custom Shop reissues, and ended up selling the I. The I and the bridge pickup of the III solo'd sounded nearly identical, and the Firebird neck pickup is amazing. The neck solo'd or combined with the bridge in the middle position are both amazing sounds. There's no advantage to having a one pickup bird over a two pickup model. For reference, I had a Novak in the I and a set of Kleins in the III.
Good idea!
 

copernicus

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Exactly which "EC tone Firebird I 64" is it you're obsessed with? The one you get through a wall of cranked Marshalls at the Royal Albert Hall, or the one you get when the stage manager tells you to "turn down your volume or else!" on a Glen Campbell TV Show? If it's the latter, a $119,99 Ashthorpe from KMart will do just fine.
In either case, you can forget about the Woman Tone, the Firebird I doesn't have it.
 

Wally

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Exactly which "EC tone Firebird I 64" is it you're obsessed with? The one you get through a wall of cranked Marshalls at the Royal Albert Hall, or the one you get when the stage manager tells you to "turn down your volume or else!" on a Glen Campbell TV Show? If it's the latter, a $119,99 Ashthorpe from KMart will do just fine.
In either case, you can forget about the Woman Tone, the Firebird I doesn't have it.
This is the worst version of this Song that Cream ever played…surely?????
 

Tommy Tourbus

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This is the worst version of this Song that Cream ever played…surely?????
It's not that bad, it's just the weak guitar tone from Clapton being turned down too low as the other guy here has mentioned.
 

gmann

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Mojotone makes an accurate Firebird pickup if you’re lookin’ for one.
 
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Wally

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It's not that bad, it's just the weak guitar tone from Clapton being turned down too low as the other guy here has mentioned.
I disagree….the volume doesn’t bother me. It is the change in the rhythm ri… listen to the above…..
and then listen to the original…


or the BBC cut….

imho, Clapton screwed the song up on purpose…perhaps because of the dictate to t urn dow?? But…whatever the reason, the cut in the first post sucks Because of the rhythm part he played.
 

Coachmoe

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Thanks for your responses. Now decided to go for a epi fb hb. This is to be had < 900 usd. Will try some boutique pick ups and will get familiar with the sound. Will than compare with vintage 64. On reverb it is written tat vintage 64 fb go for approximately 6k usd. However, now seem to go for minimum 13k usd.
What exactly do you mean : epi fb hb ? Do you possibly mean Epiphone Joe Bonamassa FB I ?
 
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