R8 binding not flush with body
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With the top or the side- not that it matters.
Gibson will fix it- needs to be scraped. And touched up with varnish.
Gibson will fix it- needs to be scraped. And touched up with varnish.
Impossible to photograph. Noticable by feel all the way around the top. All I know is that my two Collings, Martin and Larrivee are impossible to feel the difference between binding and body even with a fingernail. Bad on me to not pay attention when purchased.
The side, all the way around. Reluctant to send to Gibson via the lengthy turn around.
My original question, is this common on a Historic or is this phenom somehow considered "Historic" correct?
I have other high end guitars where the binding is indistinguishable from the body.
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Gibson paints the whole guitar- right over the bindings, then they scrape the bindings to remove the color, before spraying with clear and buffing. The scraping often leaves a small ledge.
Every US made Gibson that I've had that had binding has had this ledge to some degree in some spots. You don't see it as often on imported guitars. I think they mask the binging on most of them.
Every US made Gibson that I've had that had binding has had this ledge to some degree in some spots. You don't see it as often on imported guitars. I think they mask the binging on most of them.
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I think Don's got it right: it's meant to be that way, especially on an historic. From what I've read, many original bursts had this body binding "ledge" and it's a result of hand scraping the bindings after finishing. If you follow this link and scroll down to "FINISHES", they actually call it out as "True Historic Process To Preserve Soft Neck Binding Profile and Body Binding Ledge": http://www.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/2015/Custom/True-Historic-1959-Les-Paul.aspx
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This is common, and correct insofar as vintage Gibson also have a ledge between the binding and wood. It does depend on how much the variance is - it shouldn’t be a very large gap/difference. Just a subtle ridge.
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I, too, believe it is reasonably common for lacquer shrinkage and a noticeable transition from binding to wood, in many, if not most Gibsons.
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This is from another forum, but it shows how Gibson does the binding on their guitars.
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Sorry. don't follow.
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This is from another forum, but it shows how Gibson does the binding on their guitars.
This is great!
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This is from another forum, but it shows how Gibson does the binding on their guitars.
Interesting... so is “binding bleed” i.e. the pinkish color on binding a result from the second step in the process, meaning that it bled through onto the binding before it was scraped?
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Nor do I Dave. I lead. I don't know where I gots Dave in my head instead of jens5, but I don't know how half this chit gets in here anyways...
Nope. After. It "wicks" into the finish from below.
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Into the clearcoat, right?
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Yes. If it got on the binding actually I suspect it would not disappear as quickly as it does. I just "suspect" that. I actually do not "know" that.