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Which guitar is closest to a burst....

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yeti

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I have, and along with several of my pals and customers at the time, compared Maple capped Pre 66 necks to the more common Rosewood capped counterparts and none of us could find a significant tonal feature you could label as "Fingerboard Tone".

I find that very curious because in my experience a maple capped maple neck is a very special breed of "the Fender guitar", they tend to be very loud, ring forever and are very snappy but not necessarily better sounding when amplified. Just my experience but I find it hard to believe that a RW capped neck sounds the same as a maple capped neck of a similar vintage.
 

JJ Blair

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I will say that in a PAF, any resonant difference in the body and neck should be audible. PAFs are extremely microphonic, until you pot them. All those overtones in the body really get picked up (which may be why they call them pickups!). That's part of what I love PAFs, and even T Tops.
 

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I find that very curious because in my experience a maple capped maple neck is a very special breed of "the Fender guitar", they tend to be very loud, ring forever and are very snappy but not necessarily better sounding when amplified. Just my experience but I find it hard to believe that a RW capped neck sounds the same as a maple capped neck of a similar vintage.

+ 1, agree Werner. I think there is an audible difference (as a general rule) between all three Fender Neck variants..........Slab RW, Maple & then the later Veneer RW, other things being equal (which of course is difficult because bodies & PU's had differences).

Cheers, Rudi
 
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+ 1, agree Werner. I think there is an audible difference (as a general rule) between all three Fender Neck variants..........Slab RW, Maple & then the later Veneer RW, other things being equal (which of course is difficult because bodies & PU's had differences).

Cheers, Rudi

Where is the maple capped neck in your list? That's what I was referring to. I'm not sure I can hear the diff between a slab board RW and a thinner curved (veneer?) RW board but I believe I can hear the diff between a maple neck and a maple capped neck.
 

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Where is the maple capped neck in your list? That's what I was referring to. I'm not sure I can hear the diff between a slab board RW and a thinner curved (veneer?) RW board but I believe I can hear the diff between a maple neck and a maple capped neck.

Sorry Werner I cannot comment on the Solid vs. Capped Maple Necks............only Capped.

Mind you the way the Cap was done it is pretty hard to tell it was a Cap; i.e. perfect mated fit. This testing was done on Custom made Guitars, not Replicas, but Strat & Tele style Guitars with a slightly different HS (but very close to original).

The work was done on the three variants along with different trussrods ranging from Vintage correct to using Carbon reinforcing rods & also various forms of Maple (Birds Eye, Flame, normal QS).

The RW Veneer (or thinner curved as you put it) sounded ~ half way between the Maple & Slab RW.

Cheers, Rudi
 

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What's a burst tone? Is it Duane Allman? Dickey Betts? Mike Bloomfield? Eric Clapton? Les Paul? Peter Green? Mick Taylor? Billy Gibbons? Jimmy Page? Joe Walsh? Joe Bonamassa? Rick Nielson? Nigel Tufnel? Slash? It's not just the model of guitar...
 
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What's a burst tone? Is it Duane Allman? Dickey Betts? Mike Bloomfield? Eric Clapton? Les Paul? Peter Green? Mick Taylor? Billy Gibbons? Jimmy Page? Joe Walsh? Joe Bonamassa? Rick Nielson? Nigel Tufnel? Slash? It's not just the model of guitar...

Excellent point... That's what I say... 14 completely different voices that could easily be 14 different guitars. ....change amps, then change players...no one could possibly identify what the guitar is.... I definitely proved that to myself with that "PAF tone" clip I posted here several years back. Without my track sheets and vaguely remembering how I played I couldn't have told you which was which on first playback and I don't think anyone here was able to pick out the 50's PAF Les Paul from the hollow bodies and P-90 guitars. IMO the best "burst tone" I've ever heard is Clapton's Fool SG on Live Cream I: "Sleepy Time Time".
 
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