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What year did they start getting 'the dish' right?

goldtop0

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Generally when photographed goldtops display the top carve a lot better than sunbursts and plain tops so there may be a degree of conjecture as to an exact year maybe?
 

AA00475Bassman

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Let's say 5 R9's one top carve was confirmed correct and really what is correct ? Could you pick the one out ....... Really !

Your R9 is not a replica ,copy , clone , you can buy one Although it is not made by Gibson .
 

marshall1987

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My 2009 50th Anniversary Gibson R9 Les Paul, CB, Gold Certificate has an exquisite carved maple top w/ pronounced dish. The carve is right in line with the True Historic Les Pauls and various CCs that were made from 2015-onward. It has a very low serial number (<9-9020), possibly from the first production batch.
 

eis

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The carmelita top and later ones prove that they can do it fairly close to right but they just won't do. Guess why...
In fact I always think Gibson's steps towards the originals more like acts of imitator than Gibson itself,which is ridiculous. it's like that I just can not believe a person who trys to behave like Himself but fails and fails again...
 

dnabbet2

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I'm probably on a different page. Forgive me. But the Heritage 80 Standards and Elites have fantastic top carves.

Starting 1980.

If we're talking recent, I have a 2015 True Historic and the top carve's still too shallow. Brilliant guitar though.
 

corpse

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I think with modern shop tools, to get that deep concave around the belly could jeopardize the edge of the body- "good enough is the enemy of perfect". Many '58-60 Bursts have a tremendous variation in contour. Enjoy.
 

rickruz88

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They seem it be getting closer and closer, especially the 60th anniversary models. Perhaps by the 70th anniversary models they can make them look like this: LP Top Carve 1.jpg LP Top Carve 2.jpg
 

eis

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Light and angle can do tricks on photos.I think my 2011 looks descent on photo but actually the dish is totally wrong:
 

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rickruz88

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Light and angle can do tricks on photos.I think my 2011 looks descent on photo but actually the dish is totally wrong:
I also happen to have a 2011 R9 which sounds amazing and plays just about as good as any guitar I have ever played. However, it does NOT have a great top carve. Kind of looks like a lazy job on the top carve if you ask me. Again, the guitar is great otherwise.



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eis

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I also happen to have a 2011 R9 which sounds amazing and plays just about as good as any guitar I have ever played. However, it does NOT have a great top carve. Kind of looks like a lazy job on the top carve if you ask me. Again, the guitar is great otherwise.



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I think the top carve of mine is just like yours from this angle of view. Yeah it plays wonderful too. But 07-12 must be the darkest years of Historic line regarding the body shape and top carve hahaha...
 

sws1

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If they matched Carmelita, then Carmelita has a fairly flat carve relative to many other bursts and gold tops. Better than they used to be, but I still think they can get better.
 
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