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What color is a Lemon Burst in addition to yellow?

straightblues

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I have been looking a lemon burst and wonder what the color they use for the burst part of it. Is it amber, red, or orange or something else? It is hard to tell from the pictures I have seen. The Honeyburst looks a little more brown and the Ice Tea burst looks a little more organe/red.

Feel free to post some pictures here of your lemon burst (lemon drop) if you would like.
 

martie6621

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Lemon on the right with a Tea and a Plaintop

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brianv4

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i just got a lemonburst and the burst part is very subtle. in direct light it looks like a single color. very bright hue in sunlight and a nice mellow hue with indirect light.
 

bluesforstevie

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I have been looking a lemon burst and wonder what the color they use for the burst part of it. Is it amber, red, or orange or something else? It is hard to tell from the pictures I have seen. The Honeyburst looks a little more brown and the Ice Tea burst looks a little more organe/red.

Feel free to post some pictures here of your lemon burst (lemon drop) if you would like.

Whatever color Lemon burst, you'd better be able to live with it. Cause it wont change much.

That's why I love full color bursts!!
 

Don

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Under certain light my lemon burst looks totally yellow, under other light it shows a good amount of red, and other times (like in my avatar) it looks almost orange (it really doesn't look like that).
 

irunnoft

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I have been looking a lemon burst and wonder what the color they use for the burst part of it. Is it amber, red, or orange or something else? It is hard to tell from the pictures I have seen. The Honeyburst looks a little more brown and the Ice Tea burst looks a little more organe/red.

Feel free to post some pictures here of your lemon burst (lemon drop) if you would like.

The lemonburst I have was a handpicked one for Yamano. I don't know if that means the color is any different than what would've been designated for the states, but I love the color. It is definitely a nice lemon yellow, but it has some amber - maybe even slightly greenish - hues around the edges. There is a very, very subtle burst where the color is darker around the edges. It is nowhere nearly as pronounced as any other burst pattern.

I'm going to try to link my thread in which I took several pictures of my Lemon outside in sunlight.

http://www.lespaulforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=144328
 

simon

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The Custom Shop is using only 3 colors: yellow (basis), red and brown.
All burst-reissue colors are a combination of these 3.
Washed Cherry is just yellow and red, Iced Tea all 3 with more brown color, Faded Tobacco has even more brown color.
I guess Lemon has just a very small amount of brown and red.
 

reswot

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Here's mine. It has only a slight brownish hue around the edge. I've thought about having it refin'd to a teaburst, but I doubt that I will...

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nevizzzy

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mines a lemondrop (no burst color) 07 R9. the color changes a lot with differing light and camera flash.
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Dino_k

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It was suggested to me that, as nevizzy says, if it has no burst color it is a Lemondrop, while a yellow guitar with a light burst would be a Lemonburst.

Until last year, you only saw them rarely and I never saw a Historic with that description from Gibson until last year. I think the first one I saw on the LPF was Joe Desperado's, an 01 R8 I believe, and the first one I saw in person was the one I bought, an 06 R9.

Personally, I think the color is awesome even if they don't always photograph very accurately. The burst color on mine is a very light brown with no red or orange, and this photo is the closest I've been able to get to the actual color.

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JohnnyK

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My Y2K L-burst: I bought and sold - now it's back for good, happy ending!


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lpnv59

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I'm not sure how it was done in the 50's. But I watched the painter at the Gibson CS do a row of R9's. I took what I learned from that and also kept my ears open here and at other forums and have done a few bursts myself. This is what I've found works.

All bursts obviously start with a yellow base of course. Then a light burst is sprayed with a mix of blue and amber dyes. Then the final burst color is applied. Whether it be washed cherry, teaburst, vintage dark brown, it always has the blue/amber mix which you can sometimes see peaking thru the inner edge of the burst gradation to yellow. The last step is an ambered clear coat is applied.

To do a lemon burst, you just skip the third step. The variations in shades of lemonburst is due to slight mix changes, and the maple its going on. Some maple is lighter, and some take to colors differently.

This was my last one. I went a bit deeper with the lemon to get a more of a honey burst.
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pinefd

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I'm not sure how it was done in the 50's. But I watched the painter at the Gibson CS do a row of R9's. I took what I learned from that and also kept my ears open here and at other forums and have done a few bursts myself. This is what I've found works.

All bursts obviously start with a yellow base of course. Then a light burst is sprayed with a mix of blue and amber dyes. Then the final burst color is applied. Whether it be washed cherry, teaburst, vintage dark brown, it always has the blue/amber mix which you can sometimes see peaking thru the inner edge of the burst gradation to yellow. The last step is an ambered clear coat is applied.

To do a lemon burst, you just skip the third step. The variations in shades of lemonburst is due to slight mix changes, and the maple its going on. Some maple is lighter, and some take to colors differently.

This was my last one. I went a bit deeper with the lemon to get a more of a honey burst.
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What Billy said makes a lot of sense. When I look at my '07 Yamano lemonburst, especially in direct sunlight, there is a subtle greenish tint, which you'd get from combining blue and yellow. I've been playing around with dyes lately, and I've found that Stew-Mac's Colortone Lemon Yellow liquid stain, on maple, is identical in appearance to the yellow in my lemonburst. Here's my Lemonster (BTW, I've found it very difficult to accurately capture the true color of this one in a photo):

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On some older guitars, which I would consider to be lemonbursts as well, the burst looks more orange-brownish. Here's an example of a '98:

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lpnv59

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Sounds like another name for a faded cherry sunburst.


Exactly. The blue dye that was mixed with red to achieve the final burst color, is what remains when the red dye fades. For whatever reasons, the blue dye used was more fade resistant that the red, which started fading very quickly. So much so, that Gibson changed to a fade resistant red dye 2 years later. Also factor in the clear finish coats getting ambered out thru the years. Without that, the greening effect of blue over yellow, would be much more brighter.
 

Dino_k

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What Billy said makes a lot of sense. When I look at my '07 Yamano lemonburst, especially in direct sunlight, there is a subtle greenish tint, which you'd get from combining blue and yellow.

IIRC, there was a thread a while back about this phenomenon occuring in vintage Bursts which were described as "Green Bursts" and even a mention in BOTB. I originally thought they were talking about Peter Green's guitar, not the actual color green.

Green Burst thread

And I find myself saying, once again, PineFD you have some of the most beautiful Historics I've ever seen!!!!! :salude
 
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