Strap locks on a Custom Shop Les Paul?

[Injam]

I highly recommend these

 

[bursty]

@sozo

this is one reason why man invented wood dowel stock and wood screws with various lengths

 

[Gridlock]

I order my Shaller/Fender style Strap Locks for my Gibson Les Paul Custom Shop guitars (and other guitars) from Mojoaxe.

I always specify the screw diameter and length needed. The Mojoaxe buttons have a slightly larger through hole and counterbore, and the larger screws have a turned down head.

I have never been disappointed with Mojoaxe products and shipping and prices are good. An excellent company.

 

[edwardgrey]

If you will use the same strap for multiple guitars, replacement strap-locks on this thread are great and allow for safe and quick switching.

If likely to keep the same strap on the same guitar, I personally use these D’Addario dual locks which require no modification, no opinion if better than the other non-modification strap-locks on the thread.

 

[xGAMBLERx]

the best strap lock I've come across but it commits you to using one strap, unless you wanna rethread the button every time you use a different strap...

LOXX Strap Lock

musical instruments guitar strap strap locks - Schaeffertec GmbH - springy fastening systems

The clever security lock for your guitars and basses The right strap lock for every guitar and bass The LOXX® Music Box Acoustic

www.loxx-products.com

...nothing wrong with using the rubber washers style strap blocks, no guitar mod & they work just fine.

 

[myguitarstrapgentlyweeps]

That's interesting, didn't know they did that.

If it was factory fitted I'd be less concerned, because the only screw the guitar had known would be the Schaller.

My problem with using the Schaller as a replacement is that their screw is both shorter and narrower than the one I'm replacing, so I'm not convinced it will bite as well into the wood. The hole has already being gouged wider/deeper by the Custom Shop screw.

Glad you raised this- not seeing too many others mention it. Did you find a solution?

 

[Carmen]

Half of my Custom Shops CAME with Schaller strap locks from the factory.

I have a custom ebony and was hesitant to modify the guitar by installing Shaller straps should I leave the stock strap buttons on. All my Gretsch and Fenders have Shallers

 

[Any Name You Wish]

I've always found strap locks fiddly when you have to put them on and off a lot. I have run into the screw size problem as well. I make sure my leather strap fits the stock strap button nice and tight. On my really old, soft leather strap I stitched the hole smaller when it started getting too stretched out. I always have my left hand under the neck just in case. If I am doing something where I need both hands I should have taken the guitar off and put it on the stand or in the case in the first place. If playing a 2 hour gig the rubber washer things work fine. But then I've broken two headstocks, so don't listen to me.

 

[Carmen]

I've always found strap locks fiddly when you have to put them on and off a lot. I have run into the screw size problem as well. I make sure my leather strap fits the stock strap button nice and tight. On my really old, soft leather strap I stitched the hole smaller when it started getting too stretched out. I always have my left hand under the neck just in case. If I am doing something where I need both hands I should have taken the guitar off and put it on the stand or in the case in the first place. If playing a 2 hour gig the rubber washer things work fine. But then I've broken two headstocks, so don't listen to me.

I am reluctant to change the stock buttons, but I've never had a $5,000.00 guitar

 

[Wilko]

I put Dunlop strap locks on all of my guitars. The buttons are bigger than Schaller so any strap without a lock holds better, and the Dunlop mechanism is a superior design that is mil spec for vertical and shear loads.

 

[mdubya]

Put your strap on the Dunlop strap button and then put the locking mechanism in the button. That would almost be a great design. You could even put a rubber beer washer on there, too. Dunlop could improve that with a better button, too. So simple, yet nobody makes anything like that.

If you can afford to put these strap locking contraptions on all of your guitars, you can certainly pop for an individual strap for each guitar, too. jmho.

 

[Wilko]

Put your strap on the Dunlop strap button and then put the locking mechanism in the button. That would almost be a great design. You could even put a rubber beer washer on there, too. Dunlop could improve that with a better button, too. So simple, yet nobody makes anything like that.

If you can afford to put these strap locking contraptions on all of your guitars, you can certainly pop for an individual strap for each guitar, too. jmho.

Yeah, I've done both ways. Using the lock holding the strap close to the body is good. The only thing that isn't great about the dunlop design is the distance from the body. In 40 years of using them, I've had a couple strap button screws get loose. I have many straps with Dunops (~5) and each guitar at a gig has a strap on it. When no using a strap lock, the dunlop button is huge. Hold way better that little schaller thing.

The only guitar I haven't put a dunlop straplock on is my 1960 strat.

 

[J T]

Yeah all my guitars have their own strap. A few have the Dunlops and the rest get rubber stoppers. My strat is the only one with a schaller because that is what it came with from the factory. I like the Dunlops better. I never had any sort of problem with the Dunlops. The Schallers are "clicky" and the nut eventually backs off. That happend to me once. It rolled off somewhere so I had to get another whole set for that guitar.

If the large strap lock screw loosens up or you want to go back to standard strap pins, just dip a toothpick is wood glue, shove it in the screw hole, and break it off at the opening then screw in the smaller screw. That will hold.

 

[Wilko]

Curious why my post was funny.
the Dunlop is a ball lock pin design. Far superior to the Schaller design for a couple of reasons. 360 degrees, too. Schaller can’t claim that. Also the strap button on the Dunlop design has a far bigger holding surface when using a strap without a lock.

Any evidence to the contrary? Any examples of the Schaller design approved for military or aviation?

 

[LAROCCA694]

Go to Schallers website. You can order the buttons in 3 sizes-small, medium and large. Order as many large size buttons as you need-these fit the rear of the Les Paul. For some reason most stores only carry the medium sets. So you buy a medium set and a set of large buttons. More expensive, but you get what you want and need. Just my two cents.

 

[poor man's burst]

I am surpised no one mentioned yet a significant benefit with the rubber washers that Schaller and Dunlop can't claim: you have to buy two beers to get a pair of these.

 

[Grog]

I have bought many pairs of Schaller Strap Locks through the years. For a long time, they came with (2) long screws & (2) standard length screws. I always used the long screw and toothpicks if needed on the end pin & the standard sized pin by the neck. The longer screw makes up for the smaller size and has never came loose. Not really caring for the new design, I’ve been buying Fender Strap Locks, made by Schaller. They look like the originals, but the old screws need to be cut down a bit on the head to fit. The screw is hardened, so it takes a bit to cut it down. I’ve had over 40 sets of these & never had a problem. You must check that everything is tight periodically.

 

[Grog]

I have bought many pairs of Schaller Strap Locks through the years. For a long time, they came with (2) long screws & (2) standard length screws. I always used the long screw and toothpicks if needed on the end pin & the standard sized pin by the neck. The longer screw makes up for the smaller size and has never came loose. Not really caring for the new design, I’ve been buying Fender Strap Locks, made by Schaller. They look like the originals, but the old screws need to be cut down a bit on the head to fit. The screw is hardened, so it takes a bit to cut it down. I’ve had over 40 sets of these & never had a problem. You must check that everything is tight periodically.

 

[Grog]

I have bought many pairs of Schaller Strap Locks through the years. For a long time, they came with (2) long screws & (2) standard length screws. I always used the long screw and toothpicks if needed on the end pin & the standard sized pin by the neck. The longer screw makes up for the smaller size and has never came loose. Not really caring for the new design, I’ve been buying Fender Strap Locks, made by Schaller. They look like the originals, but the old screws need to be cut down a bit on the head to fit. The screw is hardened, so it takes a bit to cut it down. I’ve had over 40 sets of these & never had a problem. You must check that everything is tight periodically.

 

[mdubya]

I just bought a bunch of Warmouth oversized strap buttons to replace Schaller locking buttons that came on some used guitars (no locking mechanism included, of course, just useless Schaller buttons).

I will pair the Warmouth buttons with rubber washers, though that is not even needed.

https://warmoth.com/osb1

I really like the current Gibson buttons, too.