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My First Burst Sighting - circa 1967

AndyC

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This is just a dopey story about my first encounter with a real Burst. I've just never shared it on the LPF before, so I thought I'd do that.

I grew up in western Massachusetts, in a little town near Springfield, in a middle class community. One of my neighbors was a family who had a son about 4 years older than me. His name was David. David's mother taught guitar lessons and I understood her to play semi-professionally in some capacity.

Ever since I had met the family I knew the mother, who was fairly young, to be quite ill. She was a smoker, and I had the sense that that was part of the problem, but I wasn't sure. I'm talking about a time when I was about 8 or 9 years old, so my memory is a little foggy, but this particular event I remember very well. I recall the year of this event, because David's father had just purchased a brand new 1967 Ford Galaxie 500. It was a maroon color, and I was fascinated with it. David's Dad yelled at us to stay away from the car because he didn't want our bikes near it, scratching it.

David's mother passed away. I didn't see him much for a while, but a few months later I was visiting him. I told him that I had finally started taking guitar lessons. My parents had made me wait until my hands got big enough to fit a 3/4 size Stella acoustic guitar they had bought for me. My Dad bought me two records - a Segovia record and Carlos Montoya. Jeez, talk about setting high standards for an 8 year old!

David asked me if I wanted to see his mother's favorite guitar. We had to wait until his Dad wasn't home, because his Dad didn't want anyone messing with her stuff. David took me up to the attic - it had one of the folding drop down stairs, and I was scared going up there. In the attic, on top of an old coffee table there was this brown guitar case. We knelt down in front of it, and he opened the latches. Inside was a sunburst Les Paul. I recall it being brown rather than red. The sunburst was very much evident, but not really vibrant. It was not bright in the attic, and it was kind of dingy up there, but the guitar was unbelievable. We didn't take it out of the case, but I did touch it. David was really scared to even be messing with it. I just stared at it. I had never seen any guitar like that. I watched A Hard Day's Night with my brother, and new about solid body guitars, but I didn't know what this guitar was. The image of it, and of the attic and the case, and all is etched in my memory in high resolution.

We closed the case, and got back downstairs. David was sad talking about his Mom, so I didn't bring it up with him again. David family moved away a year or so later. I did see him - he came to my mother's funeral in 1993. I didn't get a chance to ask him about the guitar then. I have no idea where he is, or what happened to that guitar.

Later when I was around 13 and started reading "Cream" magazine I understood what the guitar was. I bought a Gibson Marauder in 1976, because the ads showed that it was in the Les Paul family - and hell, it was good enough for Paul Stanley! I finally bought myself my first real Les Paul - a Custom, in 1986.

I'll never forget that first Les Paul sighting. The guitar was only 7 or 8 years old at that time, so it was hardly a vintage guitar then. Sure wish I knew where it was now! Maybe in BOTB!! :salude
 

bern1

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Andy C, that is a really cool story! Maybe you were looking at Duane's darkburst!

I vividly remember the first time I saw a real sunburst, it was also in 1967. I was watching the Spencer Davis group in a crowded nightclub in Munich, Germany. Spencer Davis was playing a sunburst Les Paul and I remember being struck by how I though it looked oddly shaped in a really cool way....I had never actually seen any Les Paul before then. Of course that summer I was figuring a lot of other things out, like the fact that Clapton had been playing a guitar like that in the Bluesbreakers etc. etc.

That also reminds me of the first time I saw an Explorer at a Clapton concert around 1974 or 75. I thought it was a new model that Gibson was bringing out! I still had a lot to learn about a lot of things.......not unlike today!
 

20 Watt

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Isn't it amazing that, even as young kids, on some level we recognized the same qualities that have driven these things to astronomical prices?

I have a nearly identical story regarding a '54 Strat in 1977 when I was about 13...I had a neighbor my age whose uncle had become schizophrenic and they had all his possesions in their basement. They were cleaning out the basement and wanted to know if I was interested in the guitar.

Hearing you talk about kneeling as if in reverence was exactly the recollection I have ...the two of us peering into that old tweed case and seeing the grain of it's ash body trying to pop right out of the guitar! Even then it was special! Come to think of it, that was my first case of GAS!!!!

I tried talking my parents into coming up with $1000 to buy it...they didn't bite but the Stephen's Stills did. The family sold it to a local music store who sold it to Stephen. It was on the cover of VG a few years ago and I nearly cried!

By the way, you have a knack with good storying telling and great writing skills!
 

The Shifter

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OK, I'll join in with a somewhat related story.

When I was a kid I knew a guy with a 'Burst. I always looked up to him as a player, so when I had worn out my Electra Phoenix, I decided to get a REAL guitar. A Les Paul. Luckily, I found one. A 1981 Pro, cherry sunburst, for $350 in the classifieds. I bought it and thought, "Cool, now I have a Les Paul just like my hero's. Years from now it will look just like his!" It didn't take very long to realize that my, 3 piece maple necked, pancake bodied, P-90 equipped guitar was in fact VERY different from this 59 Les Paul I had admired so much.
 

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Cool story.

Seems like David's dad was kind of a hard ass.

:hmm Maybe his Dad was grieving bad.....:rolleyes:

It is strange how things have a lasting impression..... I still clearly remember a time around '68 when a friend got an already faded cherry '62 335. Couldn't get over the wide-looking pickups and (to me) the weird looking tuning keys.... The only chance to see a real 50's Les Paul in the UK by then was to go and see the main players, like Green, Beck and Kossoff who were using them.
 

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When I was but a pup and wet behind the ears, we had some pretty cool bands playing locally like the 13th Floor Elevators, Fever Tree, and the Moving Sidewalks and lots of others.

I didn't know shit from shinola about guitars and hadn't even thought about learning to play, but, friend and neighbors, I remember as clear as a bell the sound of that Les Paul guitar those guys played.

It didn't sound like an electronic instrument as all those other things did. It sounded like a VOICE singing.

I've never forgotten that and, to this day, it's my favorite musical sound. PERIOD. Hell, I've played bass in bands for the priviledge of having the best seat in the house to hear great guitar tone.

Still thrills me.

Of course, tripping on shrooms while seeing Duane and Dickie and Peter Green jam together might have had something to do with my worldview. But that's just an educated guess.
 

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I come from a family of musicians. My father was a prominant jazz pianist in town, & my uncle Al was a jazz guitarist. I was ten when my older brother turned me on to Zeppelin, so I asked my Uncle Al if he had any les pauls. He had a gold one but did'nt play it much, as he liked his jazz boxes better. Thats the guitar he tought me on. I believe it was a '57, but it had P-90s on it. He gave me the pickguard for a guitar of mine. I cut it out for pAFs, twenty years ago, but it now resides on my R-9!:2cool
 
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Andy C, that is a really cool story! Maybe you were looking at Duane's darkburst!

I vividly remember the first time I saw a real sunburst, it was also in 1967. I was watching the Spencer Davis group in a crowded nightclub in Munich, Germany. Spencer Davis was playing a sunburst Les Paul and I remember being struck by how I though it looked oddly shaped in a really cool way....I had never actually seen any Les Paul before then. Of course that summer I was figuring a lot of other things out, like the fact that Clapton had been playing a guitar like that in the Bluesbreakers etc. etc.

That also reminds me of the first time I saw an Explorer at a Clapton concert around 1974 or 75. I thought it was a new model that Gibson was bringing out! I still had a lot to learn about a lot of things.......not unlike today!

We will play with the Spencer Davis Group tommorow night,
I´ll ask him about the guitar if I have the chance:hmm
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Pr0wpV69GP0
 

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Ok, my turn. Back in the early 70's my parents always had family parties and block parties every year on our property. We owned about 150 acres with a very large ranch house and a four car garage. All the neighbors, friends and families would come. Man my parents put on a great shinDig, with every kind of food dish. In the back of the house my dad made about 10 different coal pits for all the food to keep it hot. We always had several friends that played guitar, drums, piano, and sang at the parties. Every kind of song from Tom Dooly, to the House of the rising sun, you name it, it was played and sang. Ok to the good news, my Dad worked at IBM for over 25 years at this point and always invited his coworkers to these parties. His best freind was Don and what an incredible guitar player, a cross between Bill Kirchin "Hot Rod lincoln" to the younger guys, and Chet Atkins. Well every time I saw his car come down our driveway, I ran to it, Always a New Lincoln, to the younger guys No 24 inchers, it was a Towncar. I ran there because I wanted to carry his two guitar cases, one a Tweed "hint" and the other Tan "hint" to our garage that was set up with mics and amps. Well Don had a 56 Stratocaster and of course you know what I am leading to a 59 Sunburst Les Paul. I swear every Time I opened the case it said Ahhhhhhh like the angels and there was this halo that lit up. Don let me take his guitar plug to his tweed Fender and then bring it back to him. Guys when this guy warmed up and really started playin, all the party goings came over to hear him. I would sit there amazed and watch his fingers go up and down the neck, and during rhythem chords he would sing. The guitar was a light Darkburst at this time, and if I remember the neck pickup was much hotter and he played in the middle and neck the most. When the guys did House of the Rising sun he would do a lead on the bridge. This man and this guitar is the very reason I play to this day. My parents always had guitars and amps around the house, both accoustics and electrics, but it was Don that got my interest. I do remember the guitar was in really good condition. The only pictures that we took were Polaroid and they are well in the shitter. I hope you all enjoy. I am really glad that I have had the opportunity to get some 50's LP's. Don Died in the late 80's and I hope we all can Salute him tonight if you are playin out with your LP and please give him a thumbs up.
 

Etingi

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Man... it's so cool to hear you guys talk about friends' parents and neighbors playing in a backyard party with their '59 burst...

I was born 40 years too late. :dang
 

Gibsonguy55

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Can we PLEASE keep this thread going? its really entertaining for us young guys to hear you older chaps tell about your experiences...
 

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Not quite as eloquent as the previous posts but here goes. The year is 1969, I buy a 57 maple neck strat at WEBUY guitarssin NYC. I start listening to cream and decide I need a Les Paul. Sell the strat to a kid 5 years younger whose into LSD. Next time I see the guitar is on the beach in July. No case, he's strumming away trying to play Zappa tunes, guitar is full of stickers and sand. The kid dies of an OD a couple of months later.
Next, I get turned on to Roy Buchanan on channel 13. Neils Lofgren is also on the show as a 16 year old wonder. I find a 52/53 tele for sale on the West side by a repairman'luthier named Manny. The guitar is mint! I take it to pratice at a West village studio where Mountain rehearses. I plug into a Marshall stack and get the most horrifying feedback you've ever heard. The singer tells me I've got to sell the tele and buy a white Les Paul custom. I go to Alex's Music on 48th St. and trade the tele for a new white Les Paul custom I have to add cash. Band breaks up a couple of months later. I later learn the tele has been sold to Roy.
 

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In 1980 I sent a few dollars to Gruhn's and Guitar Trader and got their flyers in the mail for some time. That got me really lusting for an oldie. I got in touch with a guy who said that he could get me any guitar I wanted. Went over to his house, and he started to unpack some brown cases. Out came a 52 and a 56 goldtop, a '61 SG, and then a '58 burst. The red on the '58 was very typical, almost burgundy, and it had a top covered with small curly flames. When the owner handed me the burst I just held it - I was so in awe that I did not dare to play it. As a first year college student I did not have the dough for any of the guitars, so I ordered a '50s Special instead - those went for $800-900 at the time. Never got that guitar - but that's another story.

I still have a polaroid somewhere of the guy's couch with the guitars sitting on it....
 

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Around 1973, I was riding with my older brother and his bass player, Everett. We are coming from Everett's parent's house, stopped at a stop sign, when coming the other way was Everett's "neighbor". We stop and he invites us over to see a few things he had at his parents house, in his old room. Like many guitar players there were numerous instruments lying around, including a pink Strat [another interesting story!]. Finally, he pulls out a totally faded striped 59 that was to die for! I had seen them on stage [not this one] but this was the first time up close! I knew they were truly the guitars I wanted and now I had close experience to reinforce that I idea!

Have Mercy! The "Un-Burst"!!
Thanks Mr. Gibbons! :salude
 

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Fantastic stories guys keep 'em comin' much more entertaining than some of the pissing contests which have surfaced of late:2zone
 
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