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Larry Corsa's view of the Faded standards

mca

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Les Paul Standard Fadeds are uniquely qualified for this mod, and do it virtually dead on, in every case. I have not had even one of these guitars, so far, sound the way a typical "normal" finished Les Paul sounds with it - which is to say, weak, thin, tinny, no sustain, and nothing like Peter Green's 'Burst. You may have experienced the mod yourself, or know someone who has done it and concluded that it sounded pretty bad. That is typical, but NOT typical of Standard Fadeds.

Even without the mod, these guitars are different than any Les Paul you've ever heard. Unless, that is, you have/had one of the rare Les Pauls that actually sound like you would expect an original 'Burst to sound. I can tell you with complete confidence, and experience, that the Les Paul Standard Fadeds are the most consistently toneful Les Pauls I have ever heard, with the key word being "consistent." This is unheard of, and always amazes me, because it goes against all I know and have learned, and I have owned eleven 1950's original PAF Les Pauls, and dozens and dozens of other Les Pauls from all eras.

A few were great, most mediocre, and one (an original '59) happens to hold the title of the "worst sounding Les Paul" I have ever owned, from any era. But, my own personal Standard Fadeds, as well as every other one I've had, are on par with the two originals I put into the "great sounding" category. Yes, even a "stock" Faded, with its short neck tenon, unusual dull finish, chambering ('06 & '07 only), BB Pros, and cheap electronics, will shame most LPs that have many of the "correct" features of the originals.I guarantee everything I say here. If you buy one of these guitars and don't experience Peter Green tone at its best, and equally brilliant tone in all switch positions, I will take it back for a full refund, with no hassle, even though I provide sound clips before final payment.

At this point, I've delivered over 40 of these guitars, with SIX buyers who bought an additional guitar for themselves, one of whom bought three! It gives me great pleasure to get these into the hands of Peter Green fans who want the tone, but can't get it anywhere else. I knew they were special the first time I played one, and further confirmed it when I flipped the magnet. After selling a few, and getting the reaction I did, that was all outside confirmation I needed to decide to keep it going.

Conclusion? If you want the tone that a Les Paul is SUPPOSED to give, buy a Standard Faded and don't look back. It will, in the real world, give you tone and playability others think they have with their "correct" Les Pauls. You don't have to buy one of mine - a stock one will do the job in spades. Mine just kick it up a few notches! - Larry Corsa, Oct. 14, 2007
 

Tarl

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Nice to know. My Standard faded in Tobacco Burst is going to be here from Gibson in mid April I am told.
 

reswot

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Let me guess: He's selling Faded Standards, right?
 

mikev

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Let me guess: He's selling Faded Standards, right?

Yes, he is.
A bunch of us have one (some more than one), they rock.

As to the mods asked about, they are (in his words from his web site):

1. Neck pickup’s magnet “flipped”
2. Neck pickup rotated in cavity, ala Peter Green’s ‘Burst
3. Aged Nickel pickup covers installed
4. Aged humbucker adjusting screws
5. Aged humbucker ring mounting screws, correct ‘50s style small heads
6. Full height humbucker rings
7. Optional drilling for pick guard screws. Original pick guard included, installed only upon request
8. ‘50s style truss rod cover
9. Foil top knobs for bridge pickup controls, ala PG’s ‘Burst, with aged pointer washers under all knobs.
10. Cheap, thin wire from toggle switch to jack & pots replaced with vintage style braided wire
11. Stock pots replaced with 500K CTS Audio Taper pots
12. Correct vintage spec Sprague Orange Drop 715P .022uf 400v capacitors, wired 50s style
13. Faber "ABR-'59" Aged Nickel ABR-1 style bridge, nickel plated brass saddles, rattle-free, no retaining wire (coming soon, Gotoh now)
14. Faber "TP-'59" Aged, lightweight nickel plated aluminum tailpiece
15. Faber "Tone-Lock" Aged nickel plated "Vintage STEEL" locking tailpiece studs and steel spacers ("no gap," full contact from top of stud to body for great increase in sustain & pick attack)
16. Highly polished top and back to remove dull, stock look. My process works great!
17. Pro setup using 10-46 strings
18. Easily over $500 retail worth of parts and labor
19. My production number written on lip of control cavity
20. Certificate, with serial# & Production # noted
 

guitarslinger

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Interesting that he's using vintage mods. I was considering a RS Guitarworks upgrade and was wondering which kit to choose.

I googled Larry Corsa but didn't come up with a web site that looked even remotely correct. Would you mind posting it please?
 

PaulSG

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ch willie

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I'm happy with the sound I get from my stock Faded. What difference do Larry's mods make? Are there other shops that offer such a mod? I mean, is it specific to Larry?
 

Goodgrain

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I have two and one also on order...

They get a very airy tone. Very unique and very reasonable to buy for "player" guitars. I ended up feeling that these guitars came closest to the Les Paul sound I was hearing in my head.

I am having one painted a custom color because I like and use these so much.

I love my original and Historic Gibsons' of course... These are just really doing it for me right now.

I have had them plekked and the binding rounded a little... And bone nuts added; which in my opinion, makes this guitar a tone monster.... But that of course is MY OPINION only!

Rock On!
 

CharlieS

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Modest, isn't he?


I hope you don't mean Larry. He's a good guy who owns/owned some nice originals and is an excellent player. He doesn't post here as much as he did several years ago, but he has credibility here with me and many others here--enough so that I bought a Faded from him. His assessment was right on the money.

He's just trying to provide some basis for his opinion.
 

Minibucker

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I hope you don't mean Larry. He's a good guy who owns/owned some nice originals and is an excellent player. He doesn't post here as much as he did several years ago, but he has credibility here with me and many others here--enough so that I bought a Faded from him. His assessment was right on the money.

He's just trying to provide some basis for his opinion.

Yes I do mean Larry, but it's not a knock...more about the conviction in which he states his case, and a testament to his thoroughness.

But if it was a knock, what's it to you anyway? Would you tell Larry on me?
 

agquake

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Yes I do mean Larry, but it's not a knock...more about the conviction in which he states his case, and a testament to his thoroughness.

But if it was a knock, what's it to you anyway? Would you tell Larry on me?
He obviously respects the guy and was simply trying to project what he feels is the guy's true image, as he felt you misunderstood something. No need to look for trouble. :ganz
 

Minibucker

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He obviously respects the guy and was simply trying to project what he feels is the guy's true image, as he felt you misunderstood something. No need to look for trouble. :ganz

I don't look for trouble, I end it. ;-) I know what he was saying, now he knows what I was saying, and as a bonus, so do you. :thumbsup:
 
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Leña_Costoso

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The good
1. Neck pickup’s magnet “flipped”
2. Neck pickup rotated in cavity, ala Peter Green’s ‘Burst
10. Cheap, thin wire from toggle switch to jack & pots replaced with vintage style braided wire
11. Stock pots replaced with 500K CTS Audio Taper pots
12. Correct vintage spec Sprague Orange Drop 715P .022uf 400v capacitors, wired 50s style

The questionable
13. Faber "ABR-'59" Aged Nickel ABR-1 style bridge, nickel plated brass saddles, rattle-free, no retaining wire (coming soon, Gotoh now)
14. Faber "TP-'59" Aged, lightweight nickel plated aluminum tailpiece
15. Faber "Tone-Lock" Aged nickel plated "Vintage STEEL" locking tailpiece studs and steel spacers ("no gap," full contact from top of stud to body for great increase in sustain & pick attack)

The tripe
3. Aged Nickel pickup covers installed
4. Aged humbucker adjusting screws
5. Aged humbucker ring mounting screws, correct ‘50s style small heads
6. Full height humbucker rings
7. Optional drilling for pick guard screws. Original pick guard included, installed only upon request
8. ‘50s style truss rod cover
9. Foil top knobs for bridge pickup controls, ala PG’s ‘Burst, with aged pointer washers under all knobs.
16. Highly polished top and back to remove dull, stock look. My process works great!
17. Pro setup using 10-46 strings
18. Easily over $500 retail worth of parts and labor
19. My production number written on lip of control cavity
20. Certificate, with serial# & Production # noted[/quote]
 
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