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Custom Shop VOS vs ML Ultra Light for a Beginner

renderit

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Something can be said for the "I wish I bought XXX instead of YYY"

My first electric was a brand spankin' new SG 200 with a used 6-10 Standel amp.

The shop owner tried to talk me into an old beat up 64 335 and an equally beat up Tweed Deluxe.

Being all of 13-15 (don't remember the age) I wanted the new guitar and the louder amp.

I learned quick aboot bad decisions...

My cents?

Go for the best you can get. If money is an issue look for a beater. They probably gots the goods...
 

gitmohair

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There's a lot of negativity in here :/ OP, good luck with your new guitar, enjoy it and the often frustrating but ultimately hugely rewarding journey learning how to play the thing :)
 

hamhands

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Thankfully I'm rather thick skinned and really don't care about the opinions that I didn't specifically ask for ;)

I'll update the original post once I get the guitar in my hands, and no, money isn't an issue. I wanted what I wanted so I bought it. The vitriol is laughable at best. I worded the original post in a way to specifically exclude the "go feel them and play them" mantra. I see that enough on youtube so I asked here what I didn't learn from youtube and I'm thankful several of you answered!

I'm a complete beginner, I don't know what the heck things are supposed to look, feel or sound like and I trust my local shop. They've been around for 40 years and the owner was very forthcoming about everything I asked.

Thanks for those that actually answered my question and didn't spew nonsense to deter me from cognizant decision that I made. I'm genuinely excited for it!
 
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bluesky636

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Thankfully I'm rather thick skinned and really don't care about the opinions that I didn't specifically ask for ;)

I'll update the original post once I get the guitar in my hands, and no, money isn't an issue. I wanted what I wanted so I bought it. The vitriol is laughable at best. I worded the original post in a way to specifically exclude the "go feel them and play them" mantra. I see that enough on youtube so I asked here what I didn't learn from youtube and I'm thankful several of you answered!

I'm a complete beginner, I don't know what the heck things are supposed to look, feel or sound like and I trust my local shop. They've been around for 40 years and the owner was very forthcoming about everything I asked.

Thanks for those that actually answered my question and didn't spew nonsense to deter me from cognizant decision that I made. I'm genuinely excited for it!
Good luck with your dream. Check back here in 6 months or so and let us know your progress.

And if you think any of the responses were vitrolic or nonsensical, your skin isn't as thick as you claim.
 

Hiwatts-n-Gibsons

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Thankfully I'm rather thick skinned and really don't care about the opinions that I didn't specifically ask for ;)

I'll update the original post once I get the guitar in my hands, and no, money isn't an issue. I wanted what I wanted so I bought it. The vitriol is laughable at best. I worded the original post in a way to specifically exclude the "go feel them and play them" mantra. I see that enough on youtube so I asked here what I didn't learn from youtube and I'm thankful several of you answered!

I'm a complete beginner, I don't know what the heck things are supposed to look, feel or sound like and I trust my local shop. They've been around for 40 years and the owner was very forthcoming about everything I asked.

Thanks for those that actually answered my question and didn't spew nonsense to deter me from cognizant decision that I made. I'm genuinely excited for it!
Hahahahaha.

Hey everybody's free to ignore solid advice. I'm sure more than a couple people told Napolean invading Russia in the winter was less than wise.

Hope you enjoy your new toy and stick with the hobby.

✌️
 

Red Baron

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Congrats Hamhands, and good on you for going for such a high quality model for your first guitar. I look forward to seeing some pics. 👍

I bought a new VOS R9 myself today, although I won’t receive it for another couple of weeks.
 

60thR0

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I do find it a bit ironic that many here are tut tutting buying a custom shop as a first guitar but while no-one here would suggest buying a real burst as a first guitar, probably a fair chunk of those were sold to less experienced players. Yes I know they had juniors and specials that were cheaper and yes the Les Paul standard wasn’t a cheap guitar but you also didn’t have a wall of choice from cheap knockoffs to epiphones, USA, and then tiers of CS above that.

I did my time on the walk up from trash to Cs Gibson and even though I climbed faster than my talent and hard work might deem appropriate- if you gave me back all those cheaper/lesser guitars to me for free I wouldn’t ever play them.

I see the only issue being price, and more specifically resale. Otherwise rock on. Definitely want to see pics of this special one!
 
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Hiwatts-n-Gibsons

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I do find it a bit ironic that many here are tut tutting buying a custom shop as a first guitar but while no-one here would suggest buying a real burst as a first guitar, probably a fair chunk of those were sold to less experienced players. Yes I know they had juniors and specials that were cheaper and yes the Les Paul standard wasn’t a cheap guitar but you also didn’t have a wall of choice from cheap knockoffs to epiphones, USA, and then tiers of CS above that.

I did my time on the walk up from trash to Cs Gibson and even though I climbed faster than my talent and hard work might deem appropriate- if you gave me back all those cheaper/lesser guitars to me for free I wouldn’t ever play them.

I see the only issue being price, and more specifically resale. Otherwise rock on. Definitely want to see pics of this special one!
Who's tut-tutting? All I said was don't get stuck on the idea of only looking at VOS and Murphy guitars.

As far as you saying you'd never play the non-prestige peice guitars if you had them back well that's you. Even when I had my Made to Measure LP Custom and '71 LP Standard my P90 LP Special, '61RI SG, my Explorer III, Gary Clark SG, LP Studio, and Firebird all got equally ample playing time. To each their own.
 

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My first guitar was a loaner Columbus SG.. loved that thing.. but it had to go back to the owner after two years.. I then got a tax return from my first job.. and I ran up to Denmark St London and saw a two purple teles.. one Japanese and one USA.. with the latter being all of my money.. and being brought up on everything USA I had to get the USA model..

..that guitar has stayed with me through thick and thin.. and even when I didn’t have two cents to rub together.. I never even considered selling the guitar.

My point is.. because I bought the best on the day.. it had a certain amount of allure and was very precious to me.. as it was/is “the best”, and I think that’s why I kept it.. all these years.. and even now all those decades later.. and having over twenty guitars.. its still my number one.. why..? Because it is and will always be “the best”.

Footnote: I think your first guitar is always a very special instrument and if it’s a branded model it retains its speciality forever.
 
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Hiwatts-n-Gibsons

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My first guitar was a loaner Columbus SG.. loved that thing.. but it had to go back to the owner after two years.. I then got a tax return from my first job.. and I ran up to Denmark St London and saw a two purple teles.. one Japanese and one USA.. with the latter being all of my money.. and being brought up on everything USA I had to get the USA model..

..that guitar has stayed with me through thick and thin.. and even when I didn’t have two cents to rub together.. I never even considered selling the guitar.

My point is.. because I bought the best on the day.. it had a certain amount of allure and was very precious to me.. as it was/is “the best”, and I think that’s why I kept it.. all these years.. and even now all those decades later.. and having over twenty guitars.. its still my number one.. why..? Because it is and will always be “the best”.

Footnote: I think your first guitar is always a very special instrument and if it’s a branded model it retains its speciality forever.
Pics of said Tele please? You're teasing us here. 😉

My very first guitar was an '87 American Standard Strat which was a gift from my folks. I love that guitar as much as I did my '71 LP Standard which was the first guitar I ever bought for myself.

i would never have sold either of them, but now have neither of them. The LP was stolen last year
The Strat is still in the family though. It was gifted to my son, the one person I know will love it as much as I do, and if he ever has one will one day gift it to his child should they play too.
 

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Pics of said Tele please? You're teasing us here. 😉

My very first guitar was an '87 American Standard Strat which was a gift from my folks. I love that guitar as much as I did my '71 LP Standard which was the first guitar I ever bought for myself.

i would never have sold either of them, but now have neither of them. The LP was stolen last year
The Strat is still in the family though. It was gifted to my son, the one person I know will love it as much as I do, and if he ever has one will one day gift it to his child should they play too.

I was considering posting a pic in my post .. but got distracted.. and it’s been posted before on the forum somewhere..
here it is .. IMG_7186.jpeg
Sorry to hear your LP was stolen.. that’s heartbreaking 💔
 

Hiwatts-n-Gibsons

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I was considering posting a pic in my post .. but got distracted.. and it’s been posted before on the forum somewhere..
here it is .. View attachment 26199
Sorry to hear your LP was stolen.. that’s heartbreaking 💔
Yeah it was.
 

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Thankfully I'm rather thick skinned and really don't care about the opinions that I didn't specifically ask for ;)

I'll update the original post once I get the guitar in my hands, and no, money isn't an issue. I wanted what I wanted so I bought it. The vitriol is laughable at best. I worded the original post in a way to specifically exclude the "go feel them and play them" mantra. I see that enough on youtube so I asked here what I didn't learn from youtube and I'm thankful several of you answered!

I'm a complete beginner, I don't know what the heck things are supposed to look, feel or sound like and I trust my local shop. They've been around for 40 years and the owner was very forthcoming about everything I asked.

Thanks for those that actually answered my question and didn't spew nonsense to deter me from cognizant decision that I made. I'm genuinely excited for it!
Congrats on your new journey & fiddle! I would also suggest something on the cheaper side since you are a beginner, just because I believe that it is the only way to appreciate a more expensive/elite guitar. However, that is how it worked out for me. Doesn't mean its a damn protocol. Enjoy your new guitar and give it as much time as you can. It will certainly give it back double fold, as long as you commit to it. Enjoy!
 
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