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Clapton's Cesar Diaz Modified Low Power Twin - How to Get that Tone?

CatManDoo88

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Hey all, now that I got my dream 64 335 reissue, I am craving those wonderful 335 into Tweed Twin blues tones Clapton got in the mid-90s (From the Cradle, Nothing But the Blues, Hyde Park, etc.)

I have a 57 Custom Champ Reissue that gets me in the ballpark. Is there anyway to get closer with a small lower volume amp? (We have a 6 month old and I am mostly a basement player) I know Clapton's Twin was modded (including I think ceramic speakers), could similar mods be done to my Champ? Would they get the tone closer? (I know they are different circuits and 8 vs 12 inch speakers make a big difference as well).

Sorry if these are stupid questions, I know very little about amps.
 
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Old dude 70

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Well….

short answer is maybe, depending on your need for accuracy. What you have is a great amp for Layla, Delaney and Bonnie era Clapton

but your main issue is going be volume, if you can crank the champ a bit and maybe add a pedal you should be able to get pretty close

my guess is at a good level youre not going be able to play with the baby in the house, at that point the answer is no, it won’t ever sound like you want at tv or lower volume, acceptable? Up to you

If you want closer that that, either a modeler or a simple headphone amp will be better
 

CatManDoo88

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Well….

short answer is maybe, depending on your need for accuracy. What you have is a great amp for Layla, Delaney and Bonnie era Clapton

but your main issue is going be volume, if you can crank the champ a bit and maybe add a pedal you should be able to get pretty close

my guess is at a good level youre not going be able to play with the baby in the house, at that point the answer is no, it won’t ever sound like you want at tv or lower volume, acceptable? Up to you

If you want closer that that, either a modeler or a simple headphone amp will be better
Thanks! Yeah, it is a great Layla era amp, but I really need to get a good Strat.

I've actually been able to get away with the Champ cranked in the basement while wife and baby are on second floor (we are blessed with a good size house with good insulation). But anything bigger goes too far.

I've been doing some research and it seems two of the major mods done to Clapton's Twin was swapping out the 12AY7 preamp tubes for 12AX7s and the stock alnico speakers for ceramics. It seems the same preamp tube is actually common with Tweed Champ reissues because the 12AX7 is more historically accurate and a lot of people don't love the stock speaker. It seems a common mod is replacing the stock Webber alnico with a Jupiter 8SC for a more open ended sound.
 

ajtonly1

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Get an attenuator, you can those natural sounds that sound more organic from the natural distortion of the amp than any pedal can do IMO. Ymmv but a cranked amp negates the need for a pedal
Good luck 🤙🏼
 
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