• Guys, we've spent considerable money converting the Les Paul Forum to this new XenForo platform, and we have ongoing monthly operating expenses. THE "DONATIONS" TAB IS NOW WORKING, AND WE WOULD APPRECIATE ANY DONATIONS YOU CAN MAKE TO KEEP THE LES PAUL FORUM GOING! Thank you!

Any tips on dating parts for vintage Gibsons?

Flogger

Active member
Joined
Sep 23, 2008
Messages
555
The thick bodied SG, which was used on What was the slab-bodied Les Paul Junior and Les Paul Special, was much different from the thinner, beveled edged ‘SG’ bodied guitar that was introduced in 1961 and has been in constant production since then. The beveled-edged Les Paul that was introduced in 1961 was renamed circa 1963 because Les Paul did not care for his name to be used on the guitar because he did not care for the guitar...he therefor chose not to gather the payment for that use of his name.
Here is a good basic history for your consideration....
The stated reason was Les didn't like the design, but that all went down at the same time as his divorce from Mary Ford, a time when many try reducing revenue in order to gain a less burdensome settlement.
 

Wally

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 27, 2003
Messages
3,535
The stated reason was Les didn't like the design, but that all went down at the same time as his divorce from Mary Ford, a time when many try reducing revenue in order to gain a less burdensome settlement.
I have never seen a picture of Les Paul playing the beveled-edge, double-cutaway, ‘devil horn’ Bodied L.P./SG guitar.
I have also read of the timing of the divorce.
 

blueline

Active member
Joined
Mar 31, 2005
Messages
186
Unfortunately that article is woefully out of date. Information on these guitars has advanced.

The information on Les Paul and reasons for the end of the association with Gibson can be found in recently released interviews with Les Paul and Ted McCarty from the archives of Tony Bacon,
Basically both Gibson and Les Paul mutually agreed to suspend the association while the divorce was in process. Ted McCarty was had two problems with Les. One was his star status was waning and two, his divorce with Mary was
not consistent with Gibson image. Gibson had already removed LPs name from the Special in 1960 as Gibson believed LP was a "detriment" to guitar sales. The new name was SG Special


Pictorial evidence that the new Les Paul Standard also known as the Les Paul SG style was introduced in 1960 not 1961 can be found in these links:

 

fernieite

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 3, 2010
Messages
612
I have never seen a picture of Les Paul playing the beveled-edge, double-cutaway, ‘devil horn’ Bodied L.P./SG guitar.
You mean like this? There's a few photos of him with this style of body...
Google search: https://ca.images.search.yahoo.com/...2=sb-top-ca.images.search&ei=UTF-8&n=60&x=wrt

SG-Les-Paul.jpg
 
Last edited:
Top