Exposing the "evil doers"...

Xpensive Wino · Jan 25, 2015

hoss said:
At Fretted Americana for $440K

Listed as 'sold' on their site.

http://www.frettedamericana.com/product/1959-gibson-les-paul-standard

mingus · Jan 25, 2015

Banker said:
Any tone reports on Gladys?

It's spectacular.

Xpensive Wino · Jan 25, 2015

mingus said:
It's spectacular.

I found your videos.

ourmaninthenorth · Jan 25, 2015

Banker said:
Any tone reports on Gladys?

John, seem to recall WILKO played her a couple of years ago at JG's place, and wrote a decent report of his impressions.

Paging Mr Wilko....

j45 · Jan 25, 2015

hoss said:
At Fretted Americana for $440K

OK, I just remember the thread someone started saying Gladys for sale at Maverick... seems I recall the OP even reported double checking and was still on a page there. Maybe he pulled it and had it returned from Maverick... then to FA after realizing they weren't quite right.

hoss · Jan 25, 2015

j45 said:
OK, I just remember the thread someone started saying Gladys for sale at Maverick... seems I recall the OP even reported double checking and was still on a page there. Maybe he pulled it and had it returned from Maverick... then to FA after realizing they weren't quite right.

Ganz had a business relationship already with FA, he was doing appraisals for them.

j45 · Jan 25, 2015

Yes, I've done a bit of business with FA myself...a few of my better guitars came from him as a matter of fact..... at least a couple of blonde ES Gibson's in my collection and a few others back then ...and I think sold a few as well to them. I'm just recalling the LPF thread Gladys For Sale At "Maverick Music" and then recall the OP seeing the add still there at time of post.

Xpensive Wino · Jan 25, 2015

j45 said:
Yes, I've done a bit of business with FA myself...a few of my better guitars came from him as a matter of fact..... at least a couple of blonde ES Gibson's in my collection and a few others back then ...and I think sold a few as well to them. I'm just recalling the LPF thread Gladys For Sale At "Maverick Music" and then recall the OP seeing the add still there at time of post.

Evil webmaster. Nothing to do with Phil at all..:hee

Banker · Jan 25, 2015

mingus said:
It's spectacular.

Can't hear it in those videos......YMMV.

mingus · Jan 26, 2015

Banker said:
Can't hear it in those videos......YMMV.

John, I've had the pleasure of playing that guitar extensively over ~8 years and have A/B'd with a lot of other bursts many, many times. Other than the bursts I've owned, I've had the opportunity to play that one more than any others. The Youtube videos don't do it (or any other spectacular guitar or amp) justice at all due to low-quality mics & mic preamps, compression, bit rates, etc. I've only played around 100 bursts or so and can confidently state that Gladys is among the very best, period. It's very well balanced between pickups, resonant and very dynamic. It'll go from a sweet purr to a roar with a turn of the volume pots. It's one of those bursts that has everything you'd ever need: playability, tone and looks. The top and fade may not be everyone's cup of tea, but the neck shape/feel, low action and tone are easily at the top of the heap.

Kerry, that guitar was never at Maverick. Fretted Americana had it on their site as a consignment, but Joe sold it himself privately.

j45 · Jan 26, 2015

mingus said:
Kerry, that guitar was never at Maverick. Fretted Americana had it on their site as a consignment, but Joe sold it himself privately.

Gotcha John...you should know...just wondered how that thread came about. Another shady misrepresentation I assume..

hoss · Jan 26, 2015

mingus said:
That guitar was never at Maverick. Fretted Americana had it on their site as a consignment, but Joe sold it himself privately.

Thanks :salude

Tom Wittrock · Jan 26, 2015

landminelenny said:
I bought a guitar from Guitar Point that turned out to be far from as described. It was not a good experience at all. I would never recommend them or buy from them again with good reason.

That's a shame, but I do understand.
My dealings there have been selling to him, and include 30+ deals.
I have also visited the shop 6+ times and inspected many guitars.
I do suggest if you are ever in the Frankfurt area [they are in Maintal] to go in a check it out in person.

landminelenny · Jan 26, 2015

TW59 said:
That's a shame, but I do understand.
My dealings there have been selling to him, and include 30+ deals.
I have also visited the shop 6+ times and inspected many guitars.
I do suggest if you are ever in the Frankfurt area [they are in Maintal] to go in a check it out in person.

I'll give the visit a miss I think. When a 4000 Euro guitar is represented to me over the telephone as "all original with no issues" and I then receive a guitar with brush painted touch up to cover an area of buckle rash that is down to the wood, a factory 2nd stamp that has been hidden also by brush paint, a collapsed bridge and a seven piece maple top that is immediately visible from opening the case, I have lost all confidence.

Minibucker · Jan 26, 2015

Did you try to take it up with them about it? If so, what was their response?

landminelenny · Jan 26, 2015

Minibucker said:
Did you try to take it up with them about it? If so, what was their response?

I couldn't believe they would send me such a guitar. I called them up and asked them how they ever thought I would accept the guitar as 'all original with no issues'. They told me that as I didn't like the guitar I would need to send it back to them and when they had received it they promised a refund. I made them send a courier to uplift it as it wasn't a matter of me not liking the guitar but more a case of them misrepresenting the instrument and lying to me. I got my refund a few days after they received it back. The guitar was already overpriced to begin with and the undisclosed issues were completely unacceptable. My first deal with them that also became my last.

Here is the guitar in question: http://shop.guitarpoint.de/en/Gibson/1974-Gibson-Les-Paul-Custom-Ebony

Here is what the blacklight showed.

Minibucker · Jan 26, 2015

At least you got your money back with little if any hassle, thankfully. Doesn't excuse the misrepresenting, but fortunate for you it wasn't messier….which it likely would have been with other's mentioned here.

yeti · Jan 27, 2015

landminelenny said:
I couldn't believe they would send me such a guitar. I called them up and asked them how they ever thought I would accept the guitar as 'all original with no issues'.

Wow, well, since I like to play "devil's advocate" I'd conclude that maybe they really didn't know better.:teeth

landminelenny · Jan 27, 2015

yeti said:
Wow, well, since I like to play "devil's advocate" I'd conclude that maybe they really didn't know better.:teeth

Maybe, but that would mean they lied AND don't know what they're doing. They told me they had blacklighted the guitar before I agreed to buy it.

shred · Jan 27, 2015

Phil X, Chappers and Gladys

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Some Gladys threads:

Fretted Americana:

http://www.lespaulforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=180955

Europe:

http://www.lespaulforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=165338

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