montesada
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... Monster tops will always rule regardless of spec :headbange
IMO anyway... YMMV :2cool
The differences really are miniscule. Gibson should have just called these 2015 Historics and upped the price by $300-$400. The "True" Historic name and 30%-50% price increase is a joke IMO just like the CS models costing as much or more than 2014 Historics.
Does the hyde glue make any difference? Thats the only thing I really see as a change from '14 that might effect tone.
The differences really are miniscule. Gibson should have just called these 2015 Historics and upped the price by $300-$400. The "True" Historic name and 30%-50% price increase is a joke IMO just like the CS models costing as much or more than 2014 Historics.
Does the hyde glue make any difference? Thats the only thing I really see as a change from '14 that might effect tone.
Not sure if it's a spelling mistake or if they're using formaldehyde glue for the tops now..
Not sure if it's a spelling mistake or if they're using formaldehyde glue for the tops now..
While I agree completely with you about the price being ridiculous the differences are not miniscule. You are not judging by playing one, but by "internet wisdom". And quite frankly sounding a bit bitter because of it. Get out to play one and look it over for some time. If you can't see the difference then you don't really need a Gibson.
The first thing that you will either notice or miss is a finish that is much much better and obviously hand done as opposed to your "good enough late model GM" finish that was prevalent on the prior models in places. I'll bet most of the price increase is right there because doing it by hand is a time intensive issue. Sure, the plastic is a little nicer, but let's be realistic. I doubt it costs any more to make than it used to, other than the expense of trying to match it better and the sunk costs of getting there. Take maybe a couple of peeps yearly wages and double it for the materials/time spent to try it. Flipping a shop to handle things differently ain't free or cheap. I'm sure there were labor negotiations involved in some fashion. Shit ain't free. These are MUCH more expensive to produce. Maybe not as much as they are charging, but costs MUST be recovered. Can't afford one or don't want to pay that much? That's entirely cool and understandable. No reason to make false statements about them though. I was lucky enough to buy one. It is worth the price I paid to me. If they come out with a 54 I will be reserving one as fast as I can.
And while now you will be pissed at me, understand that I STILL think they should continue the Historic Line as it was before. I complained loudly about the finish being crap last year and this year, but I managed to buy a boat load of them. I loved the old line and think it still has it's place. I would never have bought a TH if they were still around and would probably been agreeing with you instead of this. Which is why I think they will be back.
While HIDE glue may make a difference I doubt the glue can change to Jekyll at any point. (However I see someone has cashed in on this often misspelled substance)!
While I agree completely with you about the price being ridiculous the differences are not miniscule. You are not judging by playing one, but by "internet wisdom". And quite frankly sounding a bit bitter because of it. Get out to play one and look it over for some time. If you can't see the difference then you don't really need a Gibson.