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Brand New LP Standard 50's, Binding crack?

DanoLPMan

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Brought brand new, came in factory box...At the 16th fret, at the body neck joint...16thFret.jpg

Send it back?

Thanks
Dano
 

sonar

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Not the end of the world, but if it bugs you return it. You should be happy with a 2K investment.
 

zacknorton

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WTF!?!

If you seriously have a problem with the guitar in that picture.... you’ll never be happy with anything.
 

DaveSG

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Eventually more will probably look like that. You got a little aging treatment for free. Not a big deal, if you like the guitar, play it:yah
 

pqs

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I agree with other posters. I would bother me for a few minutes, but I’d soon forget it and accept it as part of its character. To each their own though.
 

Big Al

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It is not a binding crack. It is a lacquer edge from hand scraping finish in a difficult spot.
 

mattnew33

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Binding cracks typically look like this... where the fret is putting a bit of pressure on the binding. Not sure what yours is, but I think I'd go by "Hows the guitar sound and play".... If it sounds awesome and plays well.... I don't think I'd care about the scuff there.. give it 10 minutes and you'll have added your own buckle rash to the back anyway...... but thats my .02.

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Steveo119

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My 50's in Heritage cherry has something similar on the neck binding, its not a deal breaker for me though, I think its a cracking guitar.
 

sunking101

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Binding cracks typically look like this... where the fret is putting a bit of pressure on the binding. Not sure what yours is, but I think I'd go by "Hows the guitar sound and play".... If it sounds awesome and plays well.... I don't think I'd care about the scuff there.. give it 10 minutes and you'll have added your own buckle rash to the back anyway...... but thats my .02.

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Mine is 10 years old and it has no marks on it. :eek:la
 

mdubya

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I agree.

Between the neck joint and the metal frets in a wood instrument with lacquer over plastic binding (there is a lot going on that the 16th fret! :bug) a lacquer crack is all but inevitable.

Nevermind that the photo needs to be several times actual size to even see the imperfection. :peace2
 

Sol

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The binding on one of my Les Paul's has a dozen cracks in a number of places around the body and a few on the neck binding, it freaked me out a bit, but many vintage guitars have these too, and, and over time it's just become a feature of the guitars character.
It maybe the same expansion and contraction due to temperature change that causes finish checking, but what I see in your pic is no cause for concern IMHO.
 

Big Al

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The binding on one of my Les Paul's has a dozen cracks in a number of places around the body and a few on the neck binding, it freaked me out a bit, but many vintage guitars have these too, and, and over time it's just become a feature of the guitars character.
It maybe the same expansion and contraction due to temperature change that causes finish checking, but what I see in your pic is no cause for concern IMHO.

Are you sure it's the binding that is cracked, and not the clear coat lacquer which is sprayed over the binding? Other than the common low humidty fret end cracks I can say I've rarely found cracked binding. When I have it's been on multibound guitars like Customs and always on decades old examples.
 

Texas Blues

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Are you sure it's the binding that is cracked, and not the clear coat lacquer which is sprayed over the binding? Other than the common low humidty fret end cracks I can say I've rarely found cracked binding. When I have it's been on multibound guitars like Customs and always on decades old examples.

Lacquer crack.

Binding crack.

Joe Bonamassa...

"Hold my beer."
 

Wilson_smyth

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If you want perfect, or as close to it as is possible, pick up a tokai.
I have a Les paul 50s standard from 2019 and a 2010 tokai LS135.

The tokai is spec'ed as an R9. Build wise its as close to flawless as is possible.
It feels tight, accurate, like nothing is any more than 1000th of an inch off and also feels like it comes from a line of consistency, like if i picked up any guitar made that day, it would be identical.
The gibson feels a little more "hand made". I played 8+ on the day i purchased it and they all felt very different. Most were great, one felt very poor quality. I ended up with mine as it played better than any of the rest, for me at least.

That all said, the tokai feels up tight and i always have to fight to get anything nice out of it. The Gibson just sings. How much of that is in my head is anyones guess, but ill pick up the Gibson every time and the tokai doesnt come out of its case. I think the tokai pups are not as nice but thats a quick fix.

Long story short, if you want supreme accuracy and consistency and "perfection", go for a tokai or japanese produced high end guitar (edwars, bacchus etc, theyre all good).
But for me, the right gibson still has something else that i have not found in the others.
 
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