Calling all 1968 / 1969 Les Paul Owners.

garywright · Aug 13, 2005

Wilko said:
I'm wondering about "st". I don't think there are any from that era that are "short tenons". They were either long original style, or short original style (transitional tenon). All of them are visible from the pickup cavity.

A short tenon does not show in the cavity, and wasn't introduced until early-mid 70s.

...mid 70's huh ?

Wilko · Aug 13, 2005

maybe later?

garywright · Aug 13, 2005

..Wilko, I've already posted that my '69 has one ..you disputed it earlier in this thread that it didn't happen 'till the mid 70's ...Stumbler has posted that his '69 Custom has a short tenon as well...

Stumbler · Aug 13, 2005

Does anyone have pics of the so-called transitional tenon? Maybe I've got one in my 69 Custom, but I thought it was short. Maybe once they went with 3 piece necks, the tenons all went short too. I definitely have a 3 piece neck and it is definitely a 69.

Inquiring minds want to know ...

Wilko · Aug 13, 2005

gentlegiant said:
..Wilko, I've already posted that my '69 has one ..you disputed it earlier in this thread that it didn't happen 'till the mid 70's ...Stumbler has posted that his '69 Custom has a short tenon as well...

You have a 69 with no tenon showing in the cavity? I've never seen one that way.

Do you know what a short tenon looks like?

Stumbler · Aug 14, 2005

I took another look in the neck pup cavity of my 69 Custom.

The tenon of this 3 piece neck protrudes maybe 1/16" into a space that is about
1 1/2" x 1/8" and about 1/2" deep. It still looks like a short tenon to me.

Repeat - it is definitely a 69 Custom.

mtndon · Aug 14, 2005

1) 531xxx
2) 1pc Neck, small headstock, no volute
3) GT
4) installed Humbuckers
5) 1 pc body
6,7,8) "I dont know".

Hope it has a good home.

Wilko · Aug 14, 2005

Stumbler said:
I took another look in the neck pup cavity of my 69 Custom.

The tenon of this 3 piece neck protrudes maybe 1/16" into a space that is about
1 1/2" x 1/8" and about 1/2" deep. It still looks like a short tenon to me.

Repeat - it is definitely a 69 Custom.

If you can see any evidence of a tenon in the pickup cavity, it's not a "short tenon"

As I posted earlier, a short tenon DOES NOT enter the cavity at all. If it's not long, and you can see it in the cavity, it's what we've been calling a "transitional tenon".

Here's a short tenon in my '76 custom:

gordyh · Aug 14, 2005

I have a picture of the transitional tennon in my 69 Custom. I will e-mail it to one of you if you can post it. I'm not set up to post picts on the forum.

garywright · Aug 14, 2005

Wilko said:
You have a 69 with no tenon showing in the cavity? I've never seen one that way.

Do you know what a short tenon looks like?

...that's right Wilko ..and yes I know what one looks like.

toxpert · Aug 14, 2005

Case Question...

I have the original form-fitted case for my '68 that needs one item repaired.

The case is overall 'good' condition except for handle - this was lost years ago.

Who/where is the best source for obtaining a accurate replacement? The handle mounts are in good condition.. it's just the handle that is no longer with us. Removing and reusing the handle retaining pins looks very feasible.

Note... just like my Lifton case from the '50s.. this '68 case is really loose fitting. For day-to-day transport, I purchased a new black alligator Gibson case - these newer cases provide multiple points for the neck as well as for body support and keep the guitar from sliding around in the case. I am really quite impressed with this latest evolution of the Gibson case.
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DaveTV · Aug 14, 2005

gentlegiant said:
...that's right Wilko ..and yes I know what one looks like.

You're going to have to post pics of that one, as no one has ever seen one made like that, ever. :ahem

You would have the only one in existence. :bug

It could be worth millions. :bug :bug

Or, you could be wrong about the year. :ahem

But definitely one of the two.

:jim

DaveTV · Aug 14, 2005

Stumbler said:
I took another look in the neck pup cavity of my 69 Custom.

The tenon of this 3 piece neck protrudes maybe 1/16" into a space that is about
1 1/2" x 1/8" and about 1/2" deep. It still looks like a short tenon to me.

Repeat - it is definitely a 69 Custom.

It may look like a short tenon to you, but it's not.

If you can see it, it's not short, by definition.

garywright · Aug 14, 2005

DaveTV said:
You would have the only one in existence. :bug

It could be worth millions. :bug :bug

:jim

...but beings I'm such a nice guy I'd sell it to you for $500,000 ...and also include a late 70's protector case without lining

Wilko · Aug 14, 2005

Mr Giant,
I may have added o the confusion on your guitar earlier in this thread by saying it was a 69. I missed the short tenon part and was using the three piece neck and such to say it wasn't a 68 more than trying to say it was a 69.

The odds of have ing a 1-piece body with a non-center seamed top are very slim. Having a 1-piece body with a short tenon is impossible (in 1969)

In looking again at what you posted, I found something quite odd about your guitar.

It doesn't exist! :bug :bug :wha

garywright · Aug 14, 2005

Wilko said:
Mr Giant,
I may have added o the confusion on your guitar earlier in this thread by saying it was a 69. I missed the short tenon part and was using the three piece neck and such to say it wasn't a 68 more than trying to say it was a 69.

The odds of have ing a 1-piece body with a non-center seamed top are very slim. Having a 1-piece body with a short tenon is impossible (in 1969)

In looking again at what you posted, I found something quite odd about your guitar.

It doesn't exist! :bug :bug :wha

?

garywright · Aug 14, 2005

Wilko said:
It doesn't exist! :bug :bug :wha

..here's a shot of the guitar that doesn't exist

..funny thing was Philtone did a wonderful fretjob on it last year ...

Wilko · Aug 14, 2005

Sorry, I thought I was making an obvious joke. Mostly about the levels of "trainspotting" that we do here.

We all make mistakes now and again about some of the features and which is called what or whatever.

I did want to get this cleared up so Moonweasel's data would be right.

With that in mind, you seem to have a '69 Les Paul custom with a three-piece neck, transitional tenon, one-piece body, no dot logo, etc.

Cool guitar either way.
:jim

garywright · Aug 14, 2005

Wilko said:
Sorry, I thought I was making an obvious joke. Mostly about the levels of "trainspotting" that we do here.

Wilko ...maybe I read something into your post that wasn't your intent ...my apologies to you ....right ..my guitar is what appears to be an early '69 ...I seem to recall John Catton posting three tenon pics ...one was the short ..the other transitional and the last a long tenon pic ....my guitar is similar to what Stumbler described above and also what I seem to recall John calling a short tenon ...it couldn't possibly get much shorter as it has a very minute protrusion into the cavity ..maybe 1/32" ...again my apologies

Rev.WillieVK · Aug 14, 2005

1969 GT with 'transitional' tenon:

FWIW 1-piece body, 3(5)-piece neck, no volute or Made In USA stamp.

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