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    Unregistered burst up for auction

    Westport Auctions
    Looks like 9 0346. Maybe 9 0846





    https://auctions.westportauction.com...standard-burst

    They have a custom up for auction too

    EDIT: Added pic
    Last edited by sws1; 05-21-20 at 05:32 AM.

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    Re: Unregistered burst up for auction

    Quote Originally Posted by sws1 View Post
    Westport Auctions
    Looks like 9 0346. Maybe 9 0846



    https://auctions.westportauction.com...standard-burst

    They have a custom up for auction too
    And the neck pu is upside down!
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    Re: Unregistered burst up for auction

    Plain as plain can be, but looks like it's all there. They can't all be flame monsters. I was impressed by the completeness of the lot description. They usually are completely worthless. Naturally, a trip to the showroom would be paramount. Still, it's nice to see these starting to come out of the woodwork a bit more, and it could be a chance for someone to pick up a Burst for a decent price. Thanks for posting!

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    Re: Unregistered burst up for auction

    Gorgeous color!

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    Re: Unregistered burst up for auction

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich R View Post
    Plain as plain can be, but looks like it's all there. They can't all be flame monsters. I was impressed by the completeness of the lot description. They usually are completely worthless. Naturally, a trip to the showroom would be paramount. Still, it's nice to see these starting to come out of the woodwork a bit more, and it could be a chance for someone to pick up a Burst for a decent price. Thanks for posting!
    It looks alot like "Buddy" 9 0378....

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    Re: Unregistered burst up for auction

    I wonder if there's a story behind the rotated neck pickup ?
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    Re: Unregistered burst up for auction

    Quote Originally Posted by au_rick View Post
    I wonder if there's a story behind the rotated neck pickup ?
    One of its owners in the past was influenced by Peter Green? Beautiful Plaintop - I love it!
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    Re: Unregistered burst up for auction

    Quote Originally Posted by BGReed2 View Post
    One of its owners in the past was influenced by Peter Green?

    No, he just got it wrong.

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    Re: Unregistered burst up for auction

    Question for those not in the know (me)...

    All things being equal - condition, tone, playability - what's the price difference between:

    Plain top (as pictured)
    Light/moderate flame
    Monster Flame

    Not that I can afford any of the three, I've just always been curious - thanks.
    R4BB
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    Re: Unregistered burst up for auction

    Quote Originally Posted by 67blackcherry View Post
    Question for those not in the know (me)...

    All things being equal - condition, tone, playability - what's the price difference between:

    Plain top (as pictured)
    Light/moderate flame
    Monster Flame

    Not that I can afford any of the three, I've just always been curious - thanks.
    A monster top could be 2-3x the price of a plain top. Maybe more. I've heard rumors of 4-5x this one's target price.

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    Re: Unregistered burst up for auction

    There is a photo on the auction site of the back of the guitar that looks like there is a small piece of mahogany grafted to the body making it two piece. Looks a little suspect. Anybody got an opinion? (dumb question). Sorry about the small photo. You can see it big using the link in the OP.


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    Re: Unregistered burst up for auction

    Quote Originally Posted by OKGuitar View Post
    There is a photo on the auction site of the back of the guitar that looks like there is a small piece of mahogany grafted to the body making it two piece. Looks a little suspect. Anybody got an opinion? (dumb question). Sorry about the small photo. You can see it big using the link in the OP.


    burst.jpg


    Kind of looks like the grain matches up pretty well on my screen, you sure it wasn't just a sticker?

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    Re: Unregistered burst up for auction

    Quote Originally Posted by deytookerjaabs View Post


    Kind of looks like the grain matches up pretty well on my screen, you sure it wasn't just a sticker?
    I'd like to think that, since they are specifically showing that spot in a photo, they aren't ignoring a wood graft, and it likely is some weird sticker.


    I was in CT on Tuesday and tried to see the guitar, but they weren't ready for guests until next week. Also would have needed some sort of proof of buyer legitimacy to see it. Not sure what that would have entailed.

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    Re: Unregistered burst up for auction

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich R View Post
    Plain as plain can be, but looks like it's all there. They can't all be flame monsters. I was impressed by the completeness of the lot description. They usually are completely worthless. Naturally, a trip to the showroom would be paramount. Still, it's nice to see these starting to come out of the woodwork a bit more, and it could be a chance for someone to pick up a Burst for a decent price. Thanks for posting!
    I have an appointment to check out the guitar on Tuesday. 9 0346.

    Due to the current health crisis, they have limited the in person pre show inspection to pre qualified buyers.

    I will try and report back on Tuesday on the burst, which has been getting a lot of interest. It looks ok to me, and the owner of the auction house, Travis, has some knowledge on guitars and seemed like a righteous guy after talking to him on the phone.
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    Re: Unregistered burst up for auction

    Quote Originally Posted by sws1 View Post
    A monster top could be 2-3x the price of a plain top. Maybe more. I've heard rumors of 4-5x this one's target price.
    There really are very few "monsters" and they are valued extremely subjectively (nothing wrong with that, it's the same with any uniques collectible). Think The African, etc

    IMO, confusion arises when people equate "flame" with "Unicorn". I have heard of several REALLY nice, needs-nothing, Bursts (all-original, flamey, good color, out of a collection, etc) that, a few years ago, might reasonably have expected to find buyers in the $300K+ range, that aren't selling for those prices. Buyers emerge around the mid-to-high twos. So I like to work backward from there. Again this is just IMO, but in the current state of affairs, I don't think it's wise to pay much more than $150K for a plaintop like the one being discussed, and a PAF GT should be well south of $100K--and you'd better be damn sure you like it, because there's no telling what the future holds. I'm no perma-bear Cassandra: I love these guitars, and could easily see myself buying another Burst (prolly not another PAF GT--I've had my fill ), even at my age. Sellers needn't whine, either. There are vanishingly few electric guitars that will find buyers for six figures--selling a guitar for $150K is a BIG deal!

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldtop0 View Post
    No, he just got it wrong.
    Actually its right as rain. Plays out of phase beautifully.

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    Re: Unregistered burst up for auction

    Bought for $8,000 from second owner in July 1990 - was that the going rate for plaintops (with a bit of birdseye) back then?

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    Re: Unregistered burst up for auction

    Quote Originally Posted by OKGuitar View Post
    There is a photo on the auction site of the back of the guitar that looks like there is a small piece of mahogany grafted to the body making it two piece. Looks a little suspect. Anybody got an opinion? (dumb question). Sorry about the small photo. You can see it big using the link in the OP.


    burst.jpg

    I think it's a graft from the factory. I have seen this on Goldtops but never on a Burst. The color and grain patterns are both different. The add states it is 100% original from the factory. Why would anyone put a sticker in that location? If it were a sticker it would have had to be folded over the edge and that is at the curve of the body. The line on the back of the guitar would not be straight.

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    Re: Unregistered burst up for auction

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    Re: Unregistered burst up for auction

    This mahogany graft was under an all gold 1956 Goldtop. 1956 All Gold LP.JPG

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    Re: Unregistered burst up for auction

    I love it.

    Whoa, I just realized the this is in the next town from me! Might want to see if I can take a look.

    Edit: never mind, bidders only.
    Last edited by Minibucker; 06-08-20 at 05:23 PM.
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    Re: Unregistered burst up for auction

    Sure looks like the grain pixels match up to me





    And the wood appears to be the same color in the indented areas.

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    Re: Unregistered burst up for auction

    The graft is a very good match and maybe from the same chunk of wood the body was cut from. If it was a sticker that area would be darker not lighter in color. An in hand inspection is the only way to tell for sure. Still looks like a graft to me.

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    Re: Unregistered burst up for auction

    From the description:

    Body is fashioned largely from one piece of mahogany with small wing on base side of lower bout. This is believed to be 100% original from Gibson factory.

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    Re: Unregistered burst up for auction

    Quote Originally Posted by T.Allen View Post
    From the description:

    Body is fashioned largely from one piece of mahogany with small wing on base side of lower bout. This is believed to be 100% original from Gibson factory.
    OK, this is way above my pay grade: who here can document authoritatively that they have ever seen such a thing on ANY OTHER BURST? Not talking about any other model of LP, such as the all-gold GT mentioned above. Asking about any verified instances of two-piece Mahogany bodies 58-60 Les Paul Standards. Anyone?

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    Re: Unregistered burst up for auction

    Sold for $185,000 plus 20% buyer's premium = $216k


    Plus tax if you don't ship out of state.

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    Re: Unregistered burst up for auction

    Hammered at 180 not 185.



    Quote Originally Posted by sws1 View Post
    Sold for $185,000 plus 20% buyer's premium = $216k


    Plus tax if you don't ship out of state.

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    Re: Unregistered burst up for auction

    Quote Originally Posted by JBLPplayer View Post
    Hammered at 180 not 185.


    Hmmm - website says 185.

    Congrats!!

    I bailed on the stuff I was bidding on. No deal to be had.

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    Re: Unregistered burst up for auction

    I'm in the Westport, CT area and received a notification on this auction a while back. I'm not in that economic local, so I could not dream of even going in and taking a look. Know JBLPplayer won a pedal from this auction and went in to personally pick it up. Would be interesting to hear what an expert thought of this piece, from a tone and play ability perspective, if anyone actually went in and took a look.

    Joe
    Last edited by joeh77; 06-18-20 at 11:44 AM.

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    Re: Unregistered burst up for auction

    Quote Originally Posted by joeh77 View Post
    Know JBLPplayer won a pedal from this auction and when in to personally pick it up. Would be interesting to hear what an expert thought of this piece, from a tone and play ability perspective, if anyone actually went in and took a look.

    Joe
    I think he won more than a pedal.

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    Re: Unregistered burst up for auction

    Now that someone here owns this one- what is the opinion on the piece that was described as being a different piece of wood?

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    Re: Unregistered burst up for auction

    So was Joe B actually in Westport? If so, I'm a little miffed he didn't call, I'm a town away..... thought we had something, dude.





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