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  1. #1

    Different Neck Angles?

    In this video it is said that 58, 59, and 60 all had progressively increased neck angles which made them more aggressive. Is this true with Historics? I can hear it in his playing and my RO is definitely aggressive, I call it "Snap Crackle Pop"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie0hGhfj1a8

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    Re: Different Neck Angles?

    In this video, he starts with a 58, 59 then 60. The 58 is a bit dull, the 59 is brighter and he describes the 60 as "Angry".

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxsg0pji2YE

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    Re: Different Neck Angles?

    Angry Joe! This video inspired me to finally get an RO.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC9sRIsvjXI

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    Re: Different Neck Angles?

    I've heard of this, and have seen the demo of 58, 59, and 60 bursts. It really caught my attention as I'd never heard of this feature in guitars from this period.

    This is anecdotal, but I spent a few yrs before finding the historic I'd been looking and listening for, its an R7 from 2004, and whether by chance or design the neck angle was slightly shallower than the R9s I'd auditioned.
    The guitar is acoustically vibrant and clear, and feels alive in my hands. Good dynamics, less forgiving with a faster response than is typical.

    I know these qualities are somewhat universal to an extent but if there are differences it might be interesting to discuss them in light of the videos you posted ?

    How would you describe your R0?

    You mentioned 'aggressive' and 'snap crackle, and pop'?
    Last edited by Sol; 03-31-20 at 03:39 PM.

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    Re: Different Neck Angles?

    While it's true that neck angles changed between the early 50s (low angle) and late 50s (higher angle), any differences between 58, 59, and 60 were because they all varied. (As did neck sizes.) The big neck angle shift happened somewhere in the mid 50s. ('53 I think). After that, they all varied.

    As for the reissues, Gibson does NOT have different neck angles for their guitars. All the same. Same people. Same assembly line. Same process. Only difference is the choice of wood and the price tag.

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    Re: Different Neck Angles?

    Quote Originally Posted by sws1 View Post
    While it's true that neck angles changed between the early 50s (low angle) and late 50s (higher angle), any differences between 58, 59, and 60 were because they all varied. (As did neck sizes.) The big neck angle shift happened somewhere in the mid 50s. ('53 I think). After that, they all varied.

    As for the reissues, Gibson does NOT have different neck angles for their guitars. All the same. Same people. Same assembly line. Same process. Only difference is the choice of wood and the price tag.
    Are you sure of the neck angles only varying from 58-60? Also are you sure Historics dont have different neck angles?

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    Re: Different Neck Angles?

    If the change in Historic neck pitch is by design, it's a detail not mentioned by Gibson in anything I've read. It does not mean it isn't being done, just that I'm not aware of it.

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    Neck Thickness?

    In this video the Chap suggests the 60's slim neck has a brighter sound with immediate attack compared to 58 and 59, but he is saying it is due to the thickness. I have many Gibson electrics all with 60's slim taper, so it is nothing new to me. We may be getting somewhere.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n81Bnj7eqwE

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