Big Al
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Yes, it works like a bridge by intonating both ends of the string. The string length is compensated for each string, so fretted notes are still affected by tuned string length.
If the out of pitch tuning of fretted notes and chords doesn't bother you or you are used to it, fine, I never claimed everybody cared as much or had to install an earvana nut. All I did was offer up a proven, relative easy fix that really works. I gave an honest, tested, verified fix for those of us who are botherd by this, hear it and desire to play with other instruments in tune.
Here are the simple FACTS & TRUTH of the matter.
All fretted guitars play out of tune, to various degrees, unless compensated for individual string length at bridge and nut. [regular guitars, not those with compensated frets etc.].
You can easily test this by using any good tuner or tuner app and the more accurate, [strobe], the better. Play an open, tuned E, checking to make sure it is perfectly tuned. Then fret any E note, anywhere on the neck. Scary huh? Was any in pitch? Go ahead and check any note. Are you OK with that? I like to use open notes when I play and fret notes against the ringing note. It bothers me that I CAN hear how sour it can sound. All kinds of things I shouldn't have to explain. IT IS NOT IN PITCH
This is the truth. Fact not fiction and if it isn't an issue for some, so what? I don't care. I don't care if older recordings are great and we all love 'em. I still hear the off pitch, sourness and like a lot of things done in the past that maybe had a kind of charm, I prefer to employ useful improvements.
I use humbucking pickups when noise is an issue, more precise tuning machines, and tuners. I embrace improvements that eliminate problematic issues I have with my gear. I don't need to hear bullshit hyperbole by some contrarian liar, using untruths, false facts, inuendo and opinion in an effort to undermine FACT.
So the guitar is out of pitch, when fretted. With itself and other instruments. Demonstrably so and verifiable. It just is. You can live with it, excuse it, ignore it, but you cannot deny it. Truth, fact, it just is. It is an issue for me. I do not just wank away, playing hyper distorted single note riffs, only sometimes. I also record and play cleaner, multi string chords and melody lines with myself and other instruments, or I did anyway. The tuning discrepancy was an issue for me and for producers. I don't like autotune software solutions, not for me.
So I tried an Earvana nut. The early version that screwed onto a baselike nut. It worked. When checked on a Peterson Strobe Tuner all the fretted notes were in pitch, or very near center for the worst offenders. WOW! A real solution that greatly improved the pitch issue. IT WORKS! It is measurable, audible and verifiable. FACT TRUTH FOR REAL
I used the drop shelf and installed on my Warmoth necks for my builds.
So guitar not in tune when fretted. Whether you care or not, it is a fact. Real. Why the denial? Why is it an issue if some of us find this to be a problem and seek a solution? How is this a problem for those that don't care???
So there is a simple fix that works. A real solution that doesn't change the way you play or tune, you just are now in tune. It sounds better. It works. Real. Fact. True.
So why the bullshit phony contadctions? Why the snide personal insulting remarks? What did I post that wasn't truthful, honest and helpful in responce to questions asked?
Why does a fucking ignorant clown always feel the need to inject his bullshit into factual discussions. I've had it with this fake ass Flowbee clown and his fake agenda. I'm glad to be outta this fucking bullshit infested waste of time. Why try to help anyone when facts don't matter and bullshit rules.
Got a big day tomorrow and more import things to do with my perfectly tuned guitars and souless playing than deal with this ignorant place on my last nite as a player.
see ya
If the out of pitch tuning of fretted notes and chords doesn't bother you or you are used to it, fine, I never claimed everybody cared as much or had to install an earvana nut. All I did was offer up a proven, relative easy fix that really works. I gave an honest, tested, verified fix for those of us who are botherd by this, hear it and desire to play with other instruments in tune.
Here are the simple FACTS & TRUTH of the matter.
All fretted guitars play out of tune, to various degrees, unless compensated for individual string length at bridge and nut. [regular guitars, not those with compensated frets etc.].
You can easily test this by using any good tuner or tuner app and the more accurate, [strobe], the better. Play an open, tuned E, checking to make sure it is perfectly tuned. Then fret any E note, anywhere on the neck. Scary huh? Was any in pitch? Go ahead and check any note. Are you OK with that? I like to use open notes when I play and fret notes against the ringing note. It bothers me that I CAN hear how sour it can sound. All kinds of things I shouldn't have to explain. IT IS NOT IN PITCH
This is the truth. Fact not fiction and if it isn't an issue for some, so what? I don't care. I don't care if older recordings are great and we all love 'em. I still hear the off pitch, sourness and like a lot of things done in the past that maybe had a kind of charm, I prefer to employ useful improvements.
I use humbucking pickups when noise is an issue, more precise tuning machines, and tuners. I embrace improvements that eliminate problematic issues I have with my gear. I don't need to hear bullshit hyperbole by some contrarian liar, using untruths, false facts, inuendo and opinion in an effort to undermine FACT.
So the guitar is out of pitch, when fretted. With itself and other instruments. Demonstrably so and verifiable. It just is. You can live with it, excuse it, ignore it, but you cannot deny it. Truth, fact, it just is. It is an issue for me. I do not just wank away, playing hyper distorted single note riffs, only sometimes. I also record and play cleaner, multi string chords and melody lines with myself and other instruments, or I did anyway. The tuning discrepancy was an issue for me and for producers. I don't like autotune software solutions, not for me.
So I tried an Earvana nut. The early version that screwed onto a baselike nut. It worked. When checked on a Peterson Strobe Tuner all the fretted notes were in pitch, or very near center for the worst offenders. WOW! A real solution that greatly improved the pitch issue. IT WORKS! It is measurable, audible and verifiable. FACT TRUTH FOR REAL
I used the drop shelf and installed on my Warmoth necks for my builds.
So guitar not in tune when fretted. Whether you care or not, it is a fact. Real. Why the denial? Why is it an issue if some of us find this to be a problem and seek a solution? How is this a problem for those that don't care???
So there is a simple fix that works. A real solution that doesn't change the way you play or tune, you just are now in tune. It sounds better. It works. Real. Fact. True.
So why the bullshit phony contadctions? Why the snide personal insulting remarks? What did I post that wasn't truthful, honest and helpful in responce to questions asked?
Why does a fucking ignorant clown always feel the need to inject his bullshit into factual discussions. I've had it with this fake ass Flowbee clown and his fake agenda. I'm glad to be outta this fucking bullshit infested waste of time. Why try to help anyone when facts don't matter and bullshit rules.
Got a big day tomorrow and more import things to do with my perfectly tuned guitars and souless playing than deal with this ignorant place on my last nite as a player.
see ya