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1957 ES-335

Doc W

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A long time ago, in the early 80s, I met a guy with a very unusual guitar, which he claimed was a 1957 ES-335. That's not a typo – 1957. I forget his name, but I met him when my band was opening for Albert Collins. He was playing with Collins' band. We got talking about guitars during the sound check. I was playing an ES-345 and he had what looked to be an early ES-335, a sunburst. He said it was one of the earliest made, in 1957. I didn't quite get what he was saying because we all know that the ES-335 was first made in 1958. He pointed out that his guitar had no binding and was, in fact, a prototype made in 1957.

That's all I know and I never saw the guy again. I swear that this is true. I have nothing to gain by making it up. Someone else must have seen that guitar, perhaps even someone in this forum.

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The first 335s in 1958 had no neck binding.

Also, Ronnie Van Zant claims to have a 1950 Les Paul in the song Mr. Banker :spabout
 

Doc W

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The first 335s in 1958 had no neck binding.

Also, Ronnie Van Zant claims to have a 1950 Les Paul in the song Mr. Banker :spabout

I didn't know that about the 335. Thanks, Mike. You have just solved a life-long mystery for me!

IIRC, the first Les Pauls also had no binding. I have a 1952 and it has the binding as well as that stupid neck angle. The bridge hardware is long gone, sadly, before I bought it.
 

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I saw Albert Collins a few times in the early 80's (got to talk to him and shake hands after a show in SF, which was memorable). Anyway, I don't really recall anything about the guitarist(s) in the Ice Breakers... I pretty much had my eyes on Collins at all times. Except when he wandered offstage or out onto the street while still playing. Great memories.
 

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There were almost certainly prototypes. You don't come up with a design that radical (for its era) without a few test builds. Most of you know that the earliest ones have some features that changed over the first few months of production. There are 58 335's with pointy ears. Those changed to the Mickey Mouse type early on. There are necks that have a two piece heel/tenon (you can't see it). The binding thing you know about. The headstock is slightly longer on the early ones. If somebody finds one with a 57 FON (U) or a 57 serial number, then I'd say you have a prototype. The earliest I've had is A27703. That's May of 58, I think. Anybody got an earlier one? There should be quite a few. Conventional wisdom says the first ones came out in February or April-it depends who you listen to. I've never seen definitive proof of anything earlier than April.
 

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I saw Albert Collins a few times in the early 80's (got to talk to him and shake hands after a show in SF, which was memorable). Anyway, I don't really recall anything about the guitarist(s) in the Ice Breakers... I pretty much had my eyes on Collins at all times. Except when he wandered offstage or out onto the street while still playing. Great memories.

The owner of the guitar in question was a really nice guy (white guitar player, if that helps narrow it down), and Mr. Collins himself was just a joy. Very humble and went out of his way to make all of us in the opening act feel comfortable. It was a fun evening. He did his usual shtick of walking around playing, coming right down off the stage, followed by an assistant with a huge roll of cable. He actually went down the stairs of the nightclub and stood in the middle of the street playing. I am sure it baffled drivers.

One more thing. The guy with the 335 took over for one song, a cover of Little Walter's "Long As I Have you." The only reason I remember this is that it was one of our big numbers also.
 

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A long time ago, in the early 80s, I met a guy with a very unusual guitar, which he claimed was a 1957 ES-335. That's not a typo – 1957. I forget his name, but I met him when my band was opening for Albert Collins. He was playing with Collins' band. We got talking about guitars during the sound check. I was playing an ES-345 and he had what looked to be an early ES-335, a sunburst. He said it was one of the earliest made, in 1957. I didn't quite get what he was saying because we all know that the ES-335 was first made in 1958. He pointed out that his guitar had no binding and was, in fact, a prototype made in 1957.

That's all I know and I never saw the guy again. I swear that this is true. I have nothing to gain by making it up. Someone else must have seen that guitar, perhaps even someone in this forum.


Here you go--1985. I haven't watched it thoroughly yet other than to find it and scroll quickly, don't know if his name is mentioned or they roll credits somewhere. He does a lengthy solo starting right around the 10 minute mark--does look like no binding on a quick view.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YUOw9vRZ5s
 

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Nice video, good view of the guitar after 10:55.
 
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Though a reissue...58

Long guard, no neck binding.

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