The story is lame.
Al, you appear to be incorrectly assuming it was PM who offered the guitar back to Beck.
The story is lame.
The legal position you state is incorrect. There are conditions that must be satisfied before it becomes a criminal matter, not least of which is mens rea. "Handling" and "possession" are different, and are treated differently.
Then there's the civil element, and the police have also advised your poorly. In the UK, the best thing to do is inform the holder of the item that it is stolen property and, at law, this creates a constructive trust, whereby the holder cannot dispose or otherwise deal with the item in question, until such time as the matter has been dealt with (either through negotiation or via the courts). Failure to do so is a breach of trust, which has both civil and criminal sanctions.
I've really been around the block on this one.....both with guitars and other assets.
Al, you appear to be incorrectly assuming it was PM who offered the guitar back to Beck.
I know him also, and had this conversation 40 yrs ago. Cool that you believe your friend but you don't KNOW squat.
I talked to Perry 40 years ago about him getting this Les Paul? I find that hard to believe.
As for "squat", I know a lot more than that. :ganz
You talked to Perry 40 years ago about him getting this Les Paul? I find that hard to believe.
As for "squat", I know a lot more than that. :ganz
Tom, you know squat is about the phone calls, unless you were listening in that is exactly what you know. As to exact nature of my conversations, again you know squat. What I'm not about to do is declare anything on a forum or speculate what may or may not be true as I don't know all the details, but apparently neither do you.
What I know is there is more going on than anyone here knows and all this speculation only fuels bullshit theorys or knee jerk declarations of fact by folks who can't yet know the facts. For someone who takes every post so extremely literal this should be obvious.
Also my goofing on the phone calls is only to show that there is no record of the calls other than claims by involved party disputed by the other. My opinion is it's humorous to just accept as fact.
If that's what you are saying, that this episode is over 40 years old [Perry finding it and talking to Jeff], then I yield to your decades old knowledge on this particular event.
Sorry, Big Al. I wrote the wrong word [pronoun] and did not proofread my post.
You seemed to be saying you talked to Perry about this guitar and deal with Jeff Beck, some 40 years ago.
If that's what you are saying, that this episode is over 40 years old [Perry finding it and talking to Jeff], then I yield to your decades old knowledge on this particular event.
No Tom, I think I wasn't clear, I had no knowledge of a purchase in '79, there was a conversation regarding the guitar relevant to its eventual purchase, but not regarding the purchase specifically. It's eventual purchase came as no surprise, that's all I'll say. I have no knowledge about the purchase or how it really went down. Only questions and two opposing versions of events.