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    Geddy Lee has a Burst for sale.

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    Re: Geddy Lee has a Burst for sale.

    Really plain. Do they have an estimate?
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    Re: Geddy Lee has a Burst for sale.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Wittrock View Post
    Really plain. Do they have an estimate?
    Really makes you wonder what they were thinking when they picked the tops. The difference between that one and say, Donna, raises a lot of questions.

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    Re: Geddy Lee has a Burst for sale.

    Quote Originally Posted by fender69 View Post
    Really makes you wonder what they were thinking when they picked the tops. The difference between that one and say, Donna, raises a lot of questions.
    Unfortunately, those questions are now 60 years old. I doubt the answers will show up now. But, we can always hope.
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    Re: Geddy Lee has a Burst for sale.

    Quote Originally Posted by fender69 View Post
    Really makes you wonder what they were thinking when they picked the tops. The difference between that one and say, Donna, raises a lot of questions.
    Plain, but yet they are nice pieces of wood. I don't recall seeing a burst with a hodgepodge of figuring and random markings on it. So even the plain ones may have been selected for aesthetic reasons.

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    Re: Geddy Lee has a Burst for sale.

    I know what they were thinking.


    They were thinking "Hey, we've got this big pile of maple blanks. Let's sort, match, then glue them."

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    Re: Geddy Lee has a Burst for sale.

    Quote Originally Posted by deytookerjaabs View Post
    I know what they were thinking.

    They were thinking "Hey, we've got this big pile of maple blanks. Let's sort, match, then glue them."
    Plain Maybe? Who needs all those Flames anyway? It has great color and nice vibe and Patina a winner

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    Re: Geddy Lee has a Burst for sale.

    Very nice color the top is plain & beautiful !!
    Ive never confused owning a bunch of high end gear with being some kind of a guitar player I'm a hack and I love guitars !

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    Re: Geddy Lee has a Burst for sale.

    Me thinks a lot of people are forgetting that Gibson made money by turning wood into guitars. They didn't waste wood, anything usable was used that's why you will see plain (non-flamey) LP bursts just as you will can find plain Super 400s, L-5s, L-7s, L-12s, etc.

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    Re: Geddy Lee has a Burst for sale.

    The V caught my eye. Burst is very nice too. Probably selling because he doesn't play them any more.
    Top carves are sexy

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    Re: Geddy Lee has a Burst for sale.

    Probably the one with the story Geddy contributed to Vic's Burst Believers 3...he calls it the Alex burst .
    Last edited by marfen; 09-26-19 at 07:46 PM.

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    Re: Geddy Lee has a Burst for sale.

    No sale.

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    Re: Geddy Lee has a Burst for sale.

    Actually it did sale. It sold for $357,500.

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    Re: Geddy Lee has a Burst for sale.

    Quote Originally Posted by CDaughtry View Post
    Actually it did sale. It sold for $357,500.
    How does it play? ;)

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    Re: Geddy Lee has a Burst for sale.

    Quote Originally Posted by CDaughtry View Post
    Actually it did sale. It sold for $357,500.
    Wow. The web site says "the bid goes on."

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    Re: Geddy Lee has a Burst for sale.

    Quote Originally Posted by CDaughtry View Post
    Actually it did sale. It sold for $357,500.
    You didn't, by chance, forget to include a sarcasm emoji, did you?

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    Re: Geddy Lee has a Burst for sale.

    Nope. I posted the screen shot on that thread on Facebook that I saw you were following. That came to me from a pretty close source to Mecum.

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    Re: Geddy Lee has a Burst for sale.

    Beautiful plain burst! Mr. Lee has some really nice guitars

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    Re: Geddy Lee has a Burst for sale.

    Quote Originally Posted by CDaughtry View Post
    Actually it did sale. It sold for $357,500.
    Then somebody lost their ass....
    Rick Nielsen just bought it for far less at Mecum Kissimmee
    https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0120-40...paul-standard/

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    Re: Geddy Lee has a Burst for sale.

    Yep. Rick Nielsen just bought it for $215k.




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    Re: Geddy Lee has a Burst for sale.

    How does a guitar sell for 357500.00 in October then sell for 215000.00 a sum to loose in thee months .
    Ive never confused owning a bunch of high end gear with being some kind of a guitar player I'm a hack and I love guitars !

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    Re: Geddy Lee has a Burst for sale.

    It didn't sell the first time, that's why it was re-listed, along with most of the other high-end pieces from the first auction. The reserves last time were ridiculous, plus all the commissions, etc. on top of the hammer price. It was a complete clusterf*ck. I watched both auctions in real time. This time, I'm sure they figured they'd better adjust things, and move some guitars, or the Mecum association was kaput.

    With the charges, etc., it came to around $250K. Didn't realize Nielsen was the buyer. Nice, straight, '59 Plaintop

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    Re: Geddy Lee has a Burst for sale.

    Thanks for clearing the Forum hogwash!
    Ive never confused owning a bunch of high end gear with being some kind of a guitar player I'm a hack and I love guitars !

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    Re: Geddy Lee has a Burst for sale.

    Tone To The Bone!
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    Re: Geddy Lee has a Burst for sale.

    Geddy sold it for 250. Not sure Mecum broke even. I won the Geddy 67 V in October. Long story.......

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    Re: Geddy Lee has a Burst for sale.

    condolences to Geddy, Alex and the Peart family for their loss of Neil.

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    Re: Geddy Lee has a Burst for sale.

    Quote Originally Posted by duaneflowers View Post
    So if his final bid was 215k, and the site says $247,150, then it looks like a buyers premium of 15%.

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    Re: Geddy Lee has a Burst for sale.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich R View Post
    It didn't sell the first time, that's why it was re-listed, along with most of the other high-end pieces from the first auction. The reserves last time were ridiculous, plus all the commissions, etc. on top of the hammer price. It was a complete clusterf*ck. I watched both auctions in real time. This time, I'm sure they figured they'd better adjust things, and move some guitars, or the Mecum association was kaput.

    With the charges, etc., it came to around $250K. Didn't realize Nielsen was the buyer. Nice, straight, '59 Plaintop
    So did people bid at the first auction, win, and then back out?

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    Re: Geddy Lee has a Burst for sale.

    Quote Originally Posted by sws1 View Post
    So did people bid at the first auction, win, and then back out?
    Yes, there was some pre-auction bidding, and live bidding, but it didn't meet reserve, so it went to their "the bid goes on.." dept. Basically, that's Mecum's version of after-auction sales dept, which most auction houses have. I watched it there for a day or two, but there was no further action. Most of Geddy's lots went that route. I actually was very happy to see them come back for a second go-round, and this time they found buyers.

    The guy who runs the guitar portion of the auctions is a nice guy, but I think he got over-enthusiastic about reserves, etc the first time. It was the first time Mecum had done something like this. IMO, the only reason to buy a guitar at auction is to get a deal, NOT "pay up". After all, the buyer gets none of the advantages of buying directly from an individual or dealer.

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    Re: Geddy Lee has a Burst for sale.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich R View Post
    Yes, there was some pre-auction bidding, and live bidding, but it didn't meet reserve, so it went to their "the bid goes on.." dept. Basically, that's Mecum's version of after-auction sales dept, which most auction houses have. I watched it there for a day or two, but there was no further action. Most of Geddy's lots went that route. I actually was very happy to see them come back for a second go-round, and this time they found buyers.

    The guy who runs the guitar portion of the auctions is a nice guy, but I think he got over-enthusiastic about reserves, etc the first time. It was the first time Mecum had done something like this. IMO, the only reason to buy a guitar at auction is to get a deal, NOT "pay up". After all, the buyer gets none of the advantages of buying directly from an individual or dealer.
    Strange, however, that the website DID show a price and that it sold.

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    Re: Geddy Lee has a Burst for sale.

    Quote Originally Posted by sws1 View Post
    Strange, however, that the website DID show a price and that it sold.
    Well, there are plenty of additional questions about the whole enterprise, but to each his own.

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    Re: Geddy Lee has a Burst for sale.

    As a buyer I'm generally not a fan of auctions......too many variables along the way..........and at the end
    With costly guitars like these vintage LPs I think it's better to sell it yourself or through an honest dealer as a second option..........that's how I'd do it if I was fortunate enough to own one or two.

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    Re: Geddy Lee has a Burst for sale.

    Stupid question from a noob, but why did this go for such a seemingly low price? As a celebrity-owned Burst, in all original condition other than a single refret, without any known issues, this seems like a low price. Emerald City and other shops seem to be selling Bursts with issues for the same if not more. Or are those asking prices highly inflated? For those of us who are less knowledge, where is the market right? (What is the high end, what is the low end?).

    I genuinely want to learn.

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    Re: Geddy Lee has a Burst for sale.

    Quote Originally Posted by CatManDoo88 View Post
    Stupid question from a noob, but why did this go for such a seemingly low price? As a celebrity-owned Burst, in all original condition other than a single refret, without any known issues, this seems like a low price. Emerald City and other shops seem to be selling Bursts with issues for the same if not more. Or are those asking prices highly inflated? For those of us who are less knowledge, where is the market right? (What is the high end, what is the low end?).

    I genuinely want to learn.
    Did Geddy Lee perform with this on a regular basis in Rush?
    If not, I see no reason for any upcharge based on "celebrity owned".
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    Re: Geddy Lee has a Burst for sale.

    Even though it technically sold at $215k, at the end of the day, after the auction fees, etc., the buyer sees a total selling price of around $250k.
    That is not a small amount - for a top that's as plain as can be.
    And like Tom said, if the guitar is not associated with a celebrity either regarding performance or recording, then the celebrity factor is a non factor.
    Finally, yes, I'd say Emerald's prices are always on the high side.

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    Re: Geddy Lee has a Burst for sale.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Wittrock View Post
    Did Geddy Lee perform with this on a regular basis in Rush?
    If not, I see no reason for any upcharge based on "celebrity owned".
    I assume not. I was more curious about the other factors generally - original condition other than refret, minimal wear, etc. Seems like a low price for a Burst in its condition. (or are there known issues with the guitar that Mecum didn't disclose?) Is $200k the average going price for a Burst in good condition these days? I got the impression from other threads around here that $100k-200k is the range for Bursts in rougher condition with issues. The big names seem to be asking $400k to $600k for nice examples. Are those asking prices ridiculously inflated? Where is the market actually right now?

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    Re: Geddy Lee has a Burst for sale.

    Quote Originally Posted by CatManDoo88 View Post
    Is $200k the average going price for a Burst in good condition these days?
    There is no such thing.
    All Bursts are different and the pricing is exceedingly complicated. It has been like that for decades.
    Everyone wants a simple answer to Burst pricing. It doesn't exist.
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    Re: Geddy Lee has a Burst for sale.

    Flame is the name of the game. The big tops pull big money. Plain tops, much less.

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    Re: Geddy Lee has a Burst for sale.

    Quote Originally Posted by T.Allen View Post
    Flame is the name of the game. The big tops pull big money. Plain tops, much less.
    That leaves everything in between. How "attractive" any top is, is in the eye of the beholder. The figure matters a lot.
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    Re: Geddy Lee has a Burst for sale.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Wittrock View Post
    There is no such thing.
    All Bursts are different and the pricing is exceedingly complicated. It has been like that for decades.
    Everyone wants a simple answer to Burst pricing. It doesn't exist.
    Flame, figure, color, condition, originality, sound/tone, weight, buyer's personal tastes... among other parameters.


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