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    Truss rod condoms

    When did this start. all Historics have these and are they still doing it?
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    Re: Truss rod condoms

    Quote Originally Posted by gmann View Post
    When did this start. all Historics have these and are they still doing it?
    I think they disappeared when the 2013 line up came in. It made a difference in my opinion.

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    Re: Truss rod condoms

    Quote Originally Posted by rob livesey View Post
    I think they disappeared when the 2013 line up came in. It made a difference in my opinion.

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    Thanks. Do you know when it started? I have an '05 R4 and an '06 Historic Special.
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    Re: Truss rod condoms

    Quote Originally Posted by gmann View Post
    Thanks. Do you know when it started? I have an '05 R4 and an '06 Historic Special.
    1990s; on the historics from the beginning.

    I think this truss rod condom tone sucking myth is blown way out of proportion. It is a very thin plastic sheath to prevent the glue fastening the fretboard to the neck from compromising the truss rod's function. People here talk about it as if the truss rod is inside a garden hose.

    Gibson has since reverted to the historically accurate condomless truss rod, but I don't believe for a minute it has a significant impact on sound. YMMV. Haters, flame away...

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    Re: Truss rod condoms

    Quote Originally Posted by J.D. View Post
    1990s; on the historics from the beginning.

    I think this truss rod condom tone sucking myth is blown way out of proportion. It is a very thin plastic sheath to prevent the glue fastening the fretboard to the neck from compromising the truss rod's function. People here talk about it as if the truss rod is inside a garden hose.

    Gibson has since reverted to the historically accurate condomless truss rod, but I don't believe for a minute it has a significant impact on sound. YMMV. Haters, flame away...
    I'm in complete agreement. I own R9's from 99, 00 with and a pair from 13 without. A non issue, imo.
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    Re: Truss rod condoms

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Al View Post
    I'm in complete agreement. I own R9's from 99, 00 with and a pair from 13 without. A non issue, imo.
    I would agree as well and my comparison is from my Norlin era Les Paul Custom (9lbs ) and you should feel how resonant this instrument is as well as my 2014 R9 is . Sometimes it's all in the wood ! My Les Paul Custom I would put it up against any Les Paul for a tone test comparison or whatever except for the holy grail period of 58-60 .

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    Re: Truss rod condoms

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    More Forum HOG WASH You can hear the difference or feel the difference when you play . I prefer to spend more time playing & less time convincing myself its a turd do to specs !!!!!!!!
    Ive never confused owning a bunch of high end gear with being some kind of a guitar player I'm a hack and I love guitars !

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    Re: Truss rod condoms

    I'm pretty sure it was dissed originally because it was an 'additional part' that was not on the 'Golden Years' Gibsons.

    That 'Forum Morphed' into 'it has to be a tone sucker because it ain't on the originals'.

    Will it become 'the beginning of the end of Gibson'?

    Or 'the end of the world as we know it'?

    I don't 'think' so.

    But now my head hurts from 'air quoting' and my 'pointy fingers' are tired...


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    Re: Truss rod condoms

    Quote Originally Posted by AA00475Bassman View Post
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    More Forum HOG WASH You can hear the difference or feel the difference when you play . I prefer to spend more time playing & less time convincing myself its a turd do to specs !!!!!!!!
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    Re: Truss rod condoms

    They were started in 1968 to avoid the glue from the Fillet strip rendering the trussrod in-operable. They use to coat the rods with Beeswax but stopped in order to save production time..

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    Re: Truss rod condoms

    Quote Originally Posted by garywright View Post
    Oh my god ! ..just when you think you’ve seen the last of Mullet Man be pops up again
    Gary he's got a truth detector hidden in the Mullet , He can only be conjured up with BS !!
    Ive never confused owning a bunch of high end gear with being some kind of a guitar player I'm a hack and I love guitars !

    He thinks the mirror is a photo of a clown ?

    The Myth: Neat wiring layouts always equate to great-sounding amps.

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    Re: Truss rod condoms

    Quote Originally Posted by garywright View Post
    Oh my god ! ..just when you think you’ve seen the last of Mullet Man be pops up again
    Gary he's got a truth detector hidden in the Mullet , He can only be conjured up with BS !!
    Ive never confused owning a bunch of high end gear with being some kind of a guitar player I'm a hack and I love guitars !

    He thinks the mirror is a photo of a clown ?

    The Myth: Neat wiring layouts always equate to great-sounding amps.

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    Re: Truss rod condoms

    Quote Originally Posted by AA00475Bassman View Post
    Gary he's got a truth detector hidden in the Mullet , He can only be conjured up with BS !!
    He could also hide a couple full length truss rods

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