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    Re: do you remember the first real burst you saw in person? first burst you've playe

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    I haven't even been in the same room as one. Not even the same postcode. I need Bonamassa to have a look at my shift pattern when he's planning his tours then maybe I might see one.
    what makes you think he doesnt already know your work shift schedule?

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    Re: do you remember the first real burst you saw in person? first burst you've playe

    November 7, 1969. Saw the Rolling Stones perform @ Moby Gym, Colorado State University in Fort Collins Colorado. First time they played in the United States with Mick Taylor too. Didn't realize at the time what it was though.

    First one I've played? Um ... that hasn't happened and probably never will. Seen and photographed (badly) a lot of them at guitar shows and in stores over the past 15+ years but the thought of holding something that valuable makes me terribly uncomfortable. Besides, playing such things is best left to proper guitarists.

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    Re: do you remember the first real burst you saw in person? first burst you've playe

    At Solidbody guitars .
    Ive never confused owning a bunch of high end gear with being some kind of a guitar player I'm a hack and I love guitars !

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    Re: do you remember the first real burst you saw in person? first burst you've playe

    About the time I was in college, around 1990. My best friends brother in law was an attorney in Memphis, and a darn good player. We were visit during summer break and my pal asked if i wanted to see his brother in laws guitar? Not really knowing much about what it was, I soon found out. When he plugged it into that marshall half stack I was mesmerized. I hung to his brother in law from then on. Mike and I became good friends as he taught me a lot about vintage guitars. He taught his boys and their friends a lot about music, even started a band for them to keep them out of Memphis trouble. Hauling them around after work, hanging out with them and just being a great mentor. RIP Mike

    I don't have a pic of his '59, but here is an old pic of Mike with a 70's custom.



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    So nice ,, FO !
    All Together now , very cool

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    Re: do you remember the first real burst you saw in person? first burst you've playe

    Almost related, my dad had a 40's Gibson LG2, and a 60's Gibson RB100 (w factory 20 hole flathead), and both had a tobacco burst finish. I grew up staring at these. I have both.

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    Sandy

    I was friends with Jeff Adams when he acquired the guitar somewhere around 1980 give or take. I sent TW a couple of photo's a while back. I no longer have host for photos maybe TW will put them up.

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    Re: do you remember the first real burst you saw in person? first burst you've playe

    The very first concert I went to was at CW Post College here on Long Island, NY. It was the first concert that Allman Bros played after Duane's death. Opening for them was Wet Willie. Ricky Hirsch played an amazing sounding burst through a Marshall stack. Some time after that, I was having some work done on a '69 LP Goldtop I had, at Sam Ash and the tech pulled out a '59 LP with an amazing top to show me. I didn't get to play it unfortunately. I've played a ton of vintage SG's, 335's, LP Specials, but no bursts.

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    Re: do you remember the first real burst you saw in person? first burst you've playe

    I remember the first time I saw one. It was in the hands of Spencer Davis at the Big Apple club in Schwabing, Munich Germany in the summer of 1968.
    The thing I remember about that gig is when somebody in the crowd shouted I’m A Man! Pete York shouted back quick as a whistle “Prove it!”

    The first time I played one was the day I started working for de Forrest at Guitar Trader in 1979. We went upstairs at the old shop at 8 Broad Street and Dave lined up about 10 brown cases, each with a sunburst inside.

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    Re: do you remember the first real burst you saw in person? first burst you've playe

    First one I saw was at a BAP concert in 1984, I was 16 then. Back then BAP was a popular german group and their guitarist Klaus "Major" Heuser had just aquired a Burst. I knew that because there were several books out about the group and in one it was mentioned that he acquired a Les Paul from 1959 (as they worded it, "burst" was not a common term in Germany back then).

    First one I got to play was 1987 in Hamburg at No. 1 - even today one of the go-to shops for vintage guitars in Germany. I was on holiday after having just graduated from school and me and a friend got my dad's car and drove through the whole country. In Hamburg I decided to check out the new PRS guitars, which were all the hype back then. In the corner of the show-room there was a burst and I do remember the tag said "pre-owned by the Scorpions". Well it actually named the guitarist (Rudolf or Mathias) but I don't remember which one. I also remember the price was 12,500, but I don't remember the currency. Back then No. 1 had many foreign customers and they did price their stuff in German Mark and US-Dollar. So 12,500 Marks would be on the cheap side (roughly 7,000 US-Dollar back then), maybe it was 12,500 Dollar. But I honestly don't remember.

    I always wondered what happened to that guitar. With that provenance you'd think it would have showed up somewhere in the last 32 years. But then, I remember I wasn't that excited about the guitar and there probably was a reason the Scorpions were selling it. They had several bursts and this one seems to be their least favorite, otherwise they wouldn't have sold it. I liked the PRS Custom 24 that I played in the shop before I grabbed the burst better back then. Oh well, little did I know.

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    Re: do you remember the first real burst you saw in person? first burst you've playe

    I've seen Famous guitar players play on stage but I have held/ played (Unplugged) a 1954 Les Paul Custom (I absolutly loved it) and a 57 Les paul custom in Cherry (that they later reissued which is also on my wishlist) but i'd love to see one in person and see what all the hype is about them!!

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    Re: do you remember the first real burst you saw in person? first burst you've playe

    Well I live in a small town in southern Minnesota,small locally owned music store here as well. I have been friends with Dave the repair/store manager here for decades.Great guy and he had some really awesome guitars............old Strats old Teles and more. There was a vintage "Burst" here in town that a guy bought back in the day and owned for years,he was a very good player. When he passed his family retained it,people knew about it but it was not for sale,least not for long time.At one point the son of the owner decided to let it go as it had become a VERY valuable guitar and my friend who ran that store bought it. I played it more than a few times and it was a amazing guitar,but just holding it thinking of what it was worth,whew! He later sold the guitar to SolidBody Guitars and from there it went over to England where it still resides. That guitar became known as "THE MINNESOTA BURST". The other "Burst" I got to play was again was owned by the same friend that had owned the Minnesota Burst. He found another here again in northern Minnesota............this one was a dark tobacco burst with a lot of wear and a cracked off neck PUP ring. That guitar had incredible patina from all the years of gigging, it played and sounded just beautiful,if I could have bought it I would have done so on the spot! It too was later sold to Mike Reader.I asked about it here on the LPF and someone found it as it was being sold on Ebay." Minnesota Burst" and the" Dark Burst"
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    Re: do you remember the first real burst you saw in person? first burst you've playe

    First 'Burst I remember hearing - Greeny circa 1970.

    First 'Burst I saw live - Zeppelin 1979.

    First 'Burst I played, courtesy of the owner, and organised by LPF member - Mick Taylor's Exile on Main Street.



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    Re: do you remember the first real burst you saw in person? first burst you've playe

    First couple I saw up close and played, were at Ax in Hand in '85-'86. I hung around there regularly, and Larry and Tom were both super nice about letting me play anything in the store, even though they knew I was a broke musician and student. Usually, it was one of them insisting I play something, rather than me asking. That was the case with the bursts.
    They had a room in the house they were in that had all the 50's Les Pauls arrayed around the room on the wall, starting with '52 and going around, but there were no bursts on the wall. I had played a bunch of the goldtops, and really dug several of them, for different reasons.
    I remember asking why they only had the green/gold ones, and that got a "look" from Larry, after which he said, "Come this way" as we walked into the room with the counter, followed by a "Wait here".

    There was thunking and clunking, and he brought out some cases with bursts in them.

    I tried them out, but I was honestly not very impressed. Both needed new strings badly, to the point where it was really kind of hard to get a feel for the guitar, and one of them needed a truss rod tweak, if not some intonation adjustments.

    I _think_ at the time, when I asked how much they were, I was told about $10K. $6K sticks in my mind for one of them. Either way, at that point, I couldn't afford $600, so $6K was so out of my range, it might as well have been $600K.

    I've seen others up close since, but I am pretty sure those were the last I actually held and played.

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    The first one that I played was the one that I bought in '83.

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    Re: do you remember the first real burst you saw in person? first burst you've playe

    I would have to thank Roger Crisler for letting me check out the first ‘59 I ever held and Bern for letting me play one of his live. Played a few since but those are my favorite memories.

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    Re: do you remember the first real burst you saw in person? first burst you've playe

    First one for me was at Gruhn’s in the mid 80s. It was later sold to Hank Williams Jr and now owned by Greg Martin. Great experience although they wouldn’t let me play it without my parents coming with me. Next to it in the case was a lefty (which I didn’t attempt to play) now owned by Paul McCartney. Both could have been bought for $10k at the time.

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    Re: do you remember the first real burst you saw in person? first burst you've playe

    I played a plain top 58 at Gruen around 2000. It didn't know any more songs than my own guitars.

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    Re: do you remember the first real burst you saw in person? first burst you've playe

    Quote Originally Posted by gibson-r8 View Post
    I played a plain top 58 at Gruen around 2000. It didn't know any more songs than my own guitars.
    ha ha, i bought a (late) 47 d-28 from an old cowboy one time, i played it a bit and he said 'if ida known all those chords were on it i wouldnta sold it!'
    then he said ' meet me out front by my garage' he had an amp he didnt use anymore said he would just give it to me...he came out with a mint 69 twin!!
    he kept his old L5. he was one cool dude.
    anywhoos i have some pics i,m going to look for of my first bursts to post

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    Re: do you remember the first real burst you saw in person? first burst you've playe

    Quote Originally Posted by toxpert View Post
    Top shelf on display cabinet in music store. I was 5-6 years old at the time. That was in 1959.
    What still resides in my memory was the bright red of the sunburst and the small body size.
    Wonderful post! Reminds me of when I was a kid and saw my first Telecaster, I thought OMG, look how the strings come shooting out from under that plate! Beyond cool!

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    Re: do you remember the first real burst you saw in person? first burst you've playe

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    It was the early '90s and at Lark Street in Albany, NY. I was still a student at Syracuse University.

    I did a double take when I saw it hanging on the wall. I asked Buzzy "Is that what I think it is?"
    He replied "It is."
    "May I play it?"
    Buzzy looked me up and down, paused and said "If you drop it, you owe me forty-thousand dollars." Then with one hand gripping the 'butt' of the guitar, he handed it to me over the counter.
    I plugged it into a '59 Bassman and quickly decided that it was the best sounding and easiest to play electric guitar I'd ever experienced. It was a 1958 'Burst with small frets and no serial number. According to Buzzy it came from the factory without a serial number. The color was largely there and the flame was light, tight and evenly distributed over the top. It was not a flame monster, nor would it even be described as overtly flamey. I definitely wasn't a plain top nor even 'peek-a-boo'. It was in very good condition but needed a re-fret. I can't remember if the tuners were original or not but if I had to guess, I'd say they were.
    I returned the guitar to Buzzy and thanked him for the enlightenment. He grinned.

    I was a semi-regular (and harmless) tire kicker at Lark Street. Buzzy knew that I was a vintage guitar nerd and that I genuinely appreciated his instruments. I still appreciate his generosity in allowing me to play pretty much whatever I wanted although I never purchased anything. It was extremely educational.
    I remember that guitar! He quoted me 40K, too, and talked about the lack of the serial #, and how it was some kind of employee/"Saturday" guitar. Even then, that sounded like some bullshido to me...

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    Re: do you remember the first real burst you saw in person? first burst you've playe

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich R View Post
    I remember that guitar! He quoted me 40K, too, and talked about the lack of the serial #, and how it was some kind of employee/"Saturday" guitar. Even then, that sounded like some bullshido to me...
    Is this the same buzzy and lark st that is in NJ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sws1 View Post
    Is this the same buzzy and lark st that is in NJ?
    The same.

    The shop in NJ has been arranged to look like the old shop in Albany.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich R View Post
    I remember that guitar! He quoted me 40K, too, and talked about the lack of the serial #, and how it was some kind of employee/"Saturday" guitar. Even then, that sounded like some bullshido to me...
    I trust Buzzy.
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    I saw Martin Barre play his '59 burst with Jethro Tull in the 1970's; man it sounded killer - what tone! I played many 1950's Les Paul Juniors through the years, owned three of them - great guitars! I played my friend Eliot's vintage 1957 Goldtop - superb! The first vintage burst I played was at Rumbleseat Music when it was in Carmel CA back in 2014. I remember walking in there and just marveling over that beautiful 1960 burst; they were asking $235K for it. The sales person asked if I wanted to play it, I said no I was just here looking, couldn't afford it by no means. He said that's ok, you can play it if you like to. Alright then, sure I'll play it! I remember playing a "G" chord unplugged and listening to the chord ring out through the old wood. I was hooked! It was just beautiful and a rare treat to play it. The burst was so balanced and articulate! $235K was a little out of my price range...... So I ended up buying an original 1955 Les Paul Junior off Reverb.com that had a small amount of cosmetic damage to it (not much though) and had it converted to a 1959 Les Paul Standad by Brian Monty of Ontario Canada. He had it for 8 months. I put two vintage 1959 PAFs in her; obtained an old ABR-1 bridge and a few other vintage parts (old black beauty caps as well). And some folks on this forum ripped into me for converting my junior to a standard. Other folks supported me. We all own our feelings, don't we? :-) That's as close as having a vintage burst as I will ever get. I do own a 2008 R9 as well; that's pretty nice. My conversion plays and sounds great; I'm very happy with it...... A few folks I let play it, loved it! First picture is the 1960 burst at Rumbleseat Music. Second picture (left to right) a Musikraft Les Paul kit I built in 2013, 1955 jr to '59 Standard in the middle, and my 2008 R9.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonkoi View Post
    I haven't even been in the same room as one. Not even the same postcode.
    Update: I played two 1959 bursts today at The North West Guitar Show in the UK. Both belonged to Tom Wilson. He had a nice collection of 50's Les Pauls with him. I got a copy of the Burst Believers 3 book while I was there which has features both guitars. Awesome day.

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    Re: do you remember the first real burst you saw in person? first burst you've playe

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonkoi View Post
    Update: I played two 1959 bursts today at The North West Guitar Show in the UK. Both belonged to Tom Wilson. He had a nice collection of 50's Les Pauls with him. I got a copy of the Burst Believers 3 book while I was there which has features both guitars. Awesome day.
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    I brought in my LP to a luthier whom I was meeting for the first time. He gave my guitar a once over and said he had something to show me: He brought out the first burst I ever saw and held in my hands. It was a surreal experience to say the least and it was unbelievable when I realised that lived within earshot of one for the longest time.

    It was one thing to hear comparison videos of the real thing vs the reissues but having heard the actual thing in person, it was the closest thing to a religious epiphany in all my time on earth.

    He added that he doesn’t normally do that but decided to when he saw that I took the trouble to change my truss rod cover to one that’s closer to proper spec. It was such a cool moment in more ways than one, and certainly one i’ll always be grateful to him for.

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    Late 70's in my local mom and pop store had a few of them hanging from the ceiling with wires so we couldn't touch them which was smart on the store owners part because we were just brats touching anything and everything and never once did I have the nerve to ask if I could play one . Then fast forward to the 90's when Lark Street Music was around the corner from my house where I purchased 2 Gibson's and a Martin and a Fender amp , they always had a Burst or 2 in the store but yet again I did not have the nerve to touch a several hundred thousand dollar guitar and the owner Buzzie who is the BEST always encouraged me to try it out and play around with it and bless his heart as I just could not and that will probably be the closest to ever having a vintage Burst in my hands .

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    I played the Norm Burst 07452 several times and was saving my pennies, thinking one day I’d be able to afford it. Just when I had enough money saved that wouldn’t even get me a used custom shop, Joe snatched it. I needed only another 10 years and it could have been mine. Tom was also kind enough to let me play Curly and Donna in Dallas. That’s it for me aside from the one I owned. A re-neck that I named “Anne Boleyn” 08144.

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    My first time playing a burst was my guitar teacher's in 1958. I got to play that one a lot. I also hung out at The Guitar Trader in Red Bank, N.J. and played all the original LP's in that store over time, including LP Customs, GT's, and of course, bursts.

    I've played bursts which were still new, unsold, at music stores in N.J. during the time they were being offered in the 1950's, and early 1960's.

    If we only knew back then what these guitars would become. Oh well, I'm perfectly happy with my R9 and Custom Shop Les Paul Custom Pro.
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    The first burst I ever saw made a huge impression on me -- it was in Mike Bloomfield's hands, right in front of me at an Electric Flag concert, ripping through a Twin Reverb. It remains one of the golden memories of my life.

    I'd read an interview with him in which he raved about the properties of a Les Paul. A year later, 1969, I'd see one hanging in Manny's. I forget the price. I just knew it looked beautiful. My need to own one someday started there.

    The OP's question has gotten me thinking about the order in which I'd see the next ones. I never would play an actual burst. But Paul Kossoff and Free came next, then Led Zeppelin at the Bath Festival for an actual burst, then Mick Taylor. Around that time I'd seen black Les Pauls in the hands of Jeff Beck, Neil Young, and others. Leon Russell. Ollie Halsall (up close in a club!). Or Page with the Black Beauty. The first Les Paul I played was a black one in the early '70s, a musician in LA loaned it to me, then tried to sell it to me dirt cheap but I was too broke. I've always wondered what I let get away? Was it a '50s LP or a Norlin? I just knew that I loved it. And it imprinted on me the dangerousness of a black Les Paul.

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    Got to see another “burst” today. Year “1959ish” at the abalone vintage booth at the philly guitar show. The Alex Conti burst

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    Quote Originally Posted by wsaraceni View Post
    Got to see another “burst” today. Year “1959ish” at the abalone vintage booth at the philly guitar show. The Alex Conti burst
    Was it advertised as a Burst, or a refinished Goldtop?
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    The first one I tried was in 2001 in South Africa. It became known as the African Burst eventually. What a beautiful guitar

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    I've never played a burst but I did see one up close when I worked at Guitars Unlimited in Menlo Park, CA back in the late 70's. A guy came in with one and showed it to us. It was a plaintop cherry burst. He said he paid $7500.00 for it so that might date it if someone here knows when plaintiops were going for that price. After he told me what he paid I didn't want to touch it. At the time that was a fortune. I just kinda gazed at it for a while

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    The first burst I got to see and hear REAL WELL was in October of '73 at a REO Speedwagon concert where my buddy Jeff and I got to the venue (a local university) early so we could get a good spot, which we did. Gary Richrath had a somewhat beat up burst with great flame, and at times he was only about four feet away from us. The sound of that thing thru two modded Marshall stacks was attention getting, to say the least. We saw him about a year later with a greened-up '57 goldtop. This photo is from the October concert. Oh, the first one I got to play was the one they have at Elderly Music right now. They were nice enough to bring it out of the "vault" and let me and my friend (who happens to be the same one that was with me at the REO concert) play it briefly.


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    Re: do you remember the first real burst you saw in person? first burst you've playe

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    I've never played a burst but I did see one up close when I worked at Guitars Unlimited in Menlo Park, CA back in the late 70's. A guy came in with one and showed it to us. It was a plaintop cherry burst. He said he paid $7500.00 for it so that might date it if someone here knows when plaintiops were going for that price. After he told me what he paid I didn't want to touch it. At the time that was a fortune. I just kinda gazed at it for a while
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    Re: do you remember the first real burst you saw in person? first burst you've playe

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Wittrock View Post
    Late 1980s.
    I guess my memory on the price is bad because this was app 1978-79 time frame. By the late 80's I was in the IT biz. I do remember thinking the guy paid a fortune for that guitar

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    Re: do you remember the first real burst you saw in person? first burst you've playe

    Quote Originally Posted by goldtop72457 View Post
    I guess my memory on the price is bad because this was app 1978-79 time frame. By the late 80's I was in the IT biz. I do remember thinking the guy paid a fortune for that guitar
    At that time plaintops were [normally] under $5000.
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    Re: do you remember the first real burst you saw in person? first burst you've playe

    First Burst I saw was 9 0850 at a High School Assembly. Here's a photo and link to a previous discussion about it.
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