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    I've heard about these and now I think I have found one!

    I have come across what I believe is a 1969 Les Paul Custom. It has been heavily played. Starting at the headstock:
    • The serial number is close: 128480
    • Keys have been changed to Schallers, but the imprint of the Kluson Deluxe tuners is visible.
    • Gibson logo (sans dot)
    • 3 Piece Mahogany Neck
    • No volute
    • No "Made in USA" imprint
    • One piece Mahogany Body w/ Maple Cap
    • Stickered PAF's


    The frets were original, but totally worn away and unplayable. Pots have been changed out over the years. Bridge replaced with a solid brass abomination. Hope to add some pics, because I know that without them, it never happened.

    Any thoughts? Am I on or off base? Should I restore and refinish, or refret and play the crap out of it?

    if this one works, more pics on the way.
    Last edited by maldred; 02-02-19 at 04:16 PM. Reason: add photos

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    Re: I've heard about these and now I think I have found one!

    ok. more pics


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    Re: I've heard about these and now I think I have found one!

    Wow, this one's been in the wars!
    I'm surprised by the blue-greyish back of the neck colour... never seen anything like it.
    I'd keep it like this, definitely not refinish.
    Please post some pics after you've patched her up!

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    Re: I've heard about these and now I think I have found one!

    Replace the frets, the nut, and maybe the knobs.

    The bridge holes have been drilled way too big. I would plug em and put a nice ABR back on it.

    After that, clean it up, string it up, set it up, and hit the gas. It will quickly become your best friend.

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    Re: I've heard about these and now I think I have found one!

    wish i could see something other than small blue boxes with a ? mark

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    Re: I've heard about these and now I think I have found one!

    Quote Originally Posted by maldred View Post
    [*]Keys have been changed to Schallers, but the imprint of the Kluson Deluxe tuners is visible.
    1969 Les Paul Customs did not have Kluson Deluxe tuners.
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    Re: I've heard about these and now I think I have found one!

    I can not see the pics.

    "Stickered PAFs" on a '69 ?

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    Re: I've heard about these and now I think I have found one!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Wittrock View Post
    1969 Les Paul Customs did not have Kluson Deluxe tuners.
    They mostly came with Kluson Wafflebacks.
    "Nice case" ~ Joe Bonamassa

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    Re: I've heard about these and now I think I have found one!

    Quote Originally Posted by poor man's burst View Post
    I can not see the pics.

    "Stickered PAFs" on a '69 ?
    my bad. should have said stickered patent numbered.

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    Re: I've heard about these and now I think I have found one!

    Quote Originally Posted by richard henry View Post
    They mostly came with Kluson Wafflebacks.
    i found an old kluson catalog online. they were actually referred to as: "Super Klusons".
    they were nicknamed "wafflebacks" by players.
    Last edited by maldred; 02-03-19 at 08:07 PM. Reason: correct error

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    Re: I've heard about these and now I think I have found one!

    Quote Originally Posted by garywright View Post
    wish i could see something other than small blue boxes with a ? mark
    not sure what the problem is. others are seeing them

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    Re: I've heard about these and now I think I have found one!

    found this info on reverb:

    "Unique to this Year: 1969 is a very transitional year for the Custom which accounts for a great deal variation of values within the year. In 1969, there are examples with single-piece bodies instead of the multi-ply body, no neck valute, and no 'made in USA' stamp that fetch substantially higher resale prices than those with these elements.

    Wood Composition: Mahogany body, Maple top, Mahogany or Maple neck, Ebony fingerboard

    Design Elements: Two humbucker pickups, block inlays, Kluson deluxe tuners, (should read: Super Kluson tuners) four control knobs, three-way pickup selector, black pickguard, bound fingerboard, stopbar tailpiece and Tune-o-matic bridge, gold hardware, headstock inlay

    Finish Specifications: All standard Les Paul Customs from 1969 feature an Ebony finish."
    Last edited by maldred; 02-03-19 at 08:08 PM. Reason: correct info

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    Re: I've heard about these and now I think I have found one!

    these are the keys that match the imprint on the back of the headstock:

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    Re: I've heard about these and now I think I have found one!

    Quote Originally Posted by garywright View Post
    wish i could see something other than small blue boxes with a ? mark
    try right clicking on the question mark and then choose: open link in new tab

    hope this helps.

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    Re: I've heard about these and now I think I have found one!

    Quote Originally Posted by maldred View Post
    i found an old kluson catalog online. they were actually referred to as: "Super Klusons".
    they were nicknamed "wafflebacks" by players.
    And they have a different footprint from the Kluson Deluxes. If the imprint is for Kluson Deluxes [as stated] that's not right for any 69 LPC I've ever heard of.
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    Re: I've heard about these and now I think I have found one!

    Are there supposed to be photos in some of these posts?
    Pauls to the walls!

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    Re: I've heard about these and now I think I have found one!

    Quote Originally Posted by maldred View Post
    try right clicking on the question mark and then choose: open link in new tab

    hope this helps.
    i'm not using a mouse and still not able to view any pix

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    Re: I've heard about these and now I think I have found one!

    Im not seeing photos. But for sure, any 69 had serial number beginning with 1.
    My diagnosis is: Hiwatt and Norlinphilia


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    Re: I've heard about these and now I think I have found one!

    Quote Originally Posted by maldred View Post
    not sure what the problem is. others are seeing them

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    Re: I've heard about these and now I think I have found one!

    Quote Originally Posted by Progrocker111 View Post
    Im not seeing photos. But for sure, any 69 had serial number beginning with 1.
    serial #128480
    Last edited by maldred; 02-04-19 at 07:44 PM. Reason: correct error

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    Re: I've heard about these and now I think I have found one!

    why can some people see the pics and others not...i have no clue. what is the best way that you guys have found to upload or link photos?

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    Re: I've heard about these and now I think I have found one!

    Quote Originally Posted by maldred View Post
    why can some people see the pics and others not...i have no clue. what is the best way that you guys have found to upload or link photos?
    wish i could offer some help ..the few times that ive posted pix lately ive used photobucket but hate the "proudly hosted by" banner they add

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    Re: I've heard about these and now I think I have found one!

    Quote Originally Posted by maldred View Post
    why can some people see the pics and others not...i have no clue. what is the best way that you guys have found to upload or link photos?
    Pics were there when I replied earlier. Can't see them now.

    I use Imgur. Never had a problem.

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    Re: I've heard about these and now I think I have found one!

    Quote Originally Posted by Strings Jr. View Post
    Pics were there when I replied earlier. Can't see them now.

    I use Imgur. Never had a problem.
    freakin' twilight zone

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    Re: I've heard about these and now I think I have found one!

    Quote Originally Posted by Strings Jr. View Post
    Pics were there when I replied earlier. Can't see them now.
    i know there's peek-a-boo bursts ..but this is supposed to be a black beauty

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    Re: I've heard about these and now I think I have found one!

    Quote Originally Posted by maldred View Post
    serial #128480
    Then it should be most probably a 1973 one.
    My diagnosis is: Hiwatt and Norlinphilia


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    Re: I've heard about these and now I think I have found one!

    Quote Originally Posted by Progrocker111 View Post
    Then it should be most probably a 1973 one.
    wouldn't that have a volute and "Made in USA"?
    Last edited by maldred; 02-13-19 at 03:52 PM. Reason: correction

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