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I've heard about these and now I think I have found one!

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maldred

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I have come across what I believe is a 1969 Les Paul Custom. It has been heavily played. Starting at the headstock:
  • The serial number is close: 128480
  • Keys have been changed to Schallers, but the imprint of the Kluson Deluxe tuners is visible.
  • Gibson logo (sans dot)
  • 3 Piece Mahogany Neck
  • No volute
  • No "Made in USA" imprint
  • One piece Mahogany Body w/ Maple Cap
  • Stickered PAF's

The frets were original, but totally worn away and unplayable. Pots have been changed out over the years. Bridge replaced with a solid brass abomination. Hope to add some pics, because I know that without them, it never happened.

Any thoughts? Am I on or off base? Should I restore and refinish, or refret and play the crap out of it?

if this one works, more pics on the way.
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Wow, this one's been in the wars!
I'm surprised by the blue-greyish back of the neck colour... never seen anything like it.
I'd keep it like this, definitely not refinish.
Please post some pics after you've patched her up! :salude
 
Strings Jr.

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Replace the frets, the nut, and maybe the knobs.

The bridge holes have been drilled way too big. I would plug em and put a nice ABR back on it.

After that, clean it up, string it up, set it up, and hit the gas. It will quickly become your best friend.
 
garywright

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wish i could see something other than small blue boxes with a ? mark
 
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found this info on reverb:

"Unique to this Year: 1969 is a very transitional year for the Custom which accounts for a great deal variation of values within the year. In 1969, there are examples with single-piece bodies instead of the multi-ply body, no neck valute, and no 'made in USA' stamp that fetch substantially higher resale prices than those with these elements.

Wood Composition: Mahogany body, Maple top, Mahogany or Maple neck, Ebony fingerboard

Design Elements: Two humbucker pickups, block inlays, Kluson deluxe tuners, (should read: Super Kluson tuners) four control knobs, three-way pickup selector, black pickguard, bound fingerboard, stopbar tailpiece and Tune-o-matic bridge, gold hardware, headstock inlay

Finish Specifications: All standard Les Paul Customs from 1969 feature an Ebony finish."
 
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these are the keys that match the imprint on the back of the headstock:
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Tom Wittrock

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maldred said:
i found an old kluson catalog online. they were actually referred to as: "Super Klusons".
they were nicknamed "wafflebacks" by players.
Click to expand...

And they have a different footprint from the Kluson Deluxes. If the imprint is for Kluson Deluxes [as stated] that's not right for any 69 LPC I've ever heard of. :hmm
 
Progrocker111

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Im not seeing photos. But for sure, any 69 had serial number beginning with 1. :hmm
 
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