2013 & 2014 Reissue Differences

IanHenry · Nov 27, 2018

Hi,
I've recently purchased a "new old stock" 58reissue. The dealer advertised it as a 2013 model but when I inspected it theguitar has a 2014 anniversary plaque on the switch cover. I contacted Gibsonand they informed me that it wasprobably a 2014 model but made in 2013.
My question is, what if any are the differencesbetween a 2013 and 14 model?

Any help will be most appreciated.

Regards,
Ian

renderit · Nov 27, 2018

Hyde glue used for neck and fingerboards on 2013.

2014 the neck and fingerboard AND top as I recall?

Makes no nevermind. 13 and on were MOSTLY fantastic beasts with fewer duds than previous years.

Try it if you can, but odds are it is a killer machine and if not can probably be made into one with a few adjustments.

And when Gibson makes a 'late model year guitar' with the next years date it usually had the features of the later year anyways.

IanHenry · Nov 27, 2018

Many thanks for your reply Renderit, very much appreciated and yes it is a killer, but it's made all my other Les Paul's redundant

Regards,
Ian

Top Gun · Nov 27, 2018

Basically they have the same specs

Tim Plains · Nov 27, 2018

2013s - hot HIDE on neck joint only.
2014s - hot HIDE on neck joing and fingerboard.
True Historics - hot HIDE on neck, fretboard, and top.

Edit: stupid auto correct.

latestarter · Nov 27, 2018

Hyde? Dr Jekyll?

Hide! As in, the skin of an animal!

CherryVelour · Nov 28, 2018

I bought a 2014 spec made in 2016 in a colour I'd never heard of... "Holland Burst", basically same dark burst as the CC Dutchburst, but without the relicing.
So, yeah.. Gibson Custom shop is weird!

renderit · Nov 28, 2018

Hyde glue.

It brings out happy people or trolls.

I standd buy mi splelllings.

JPP-1 · Nov 28, 2018

latestarter said:
Hyde? Dr Jekyll?

Hide! As in, the skin of an animal!

Genuine Hyde glue from the labs of the eccentric Dr. Jekyll. That’s what provides vintage Lester’s with such MONSTEROUSLY good tone.

While Les Paul himself was afraid to fully unleash Mr Hyde, Eric Clapton, Peter Green, Jimmy Page, Duane Allman, Slash, and others had no such reservations.

Wambemando · Nov 28, 2018

CherryVelour said:
I bought a 2014 spec made in 2016 in a colour I'd never heard of... "Holland Burst", basically same dark burst as the CC Dutchburst, but without the relicing.
So, yeah.. Gibson Custom shop is weird!

You may have a "repurposed" Collector's Choice, like my '17 R8/CC29v. This would be the 5th or 6th confirmed repurposing of a CC. Interesting!

KS 5150 · Nov 28, 2018

I have a 2013 R9 & it's a beast! You can't go wrong with '13 or later....unless it's a 2015 & has a CS serial #. Those ones are the devil's dandruff :salude

CherryVelour · Nov 29, 2018

Darth Surge said:
You may have a "repurposed" Collector's Choice, like my '17 R8/CC29v. This would be the 5th or 6th confirmed repurposing of a CC. Interesting!

Hmmm, that is interesting indeed.. Would make mine a '16 R9/CC18??.. Didn't know this was a thing! Could you point me in the direction of other repurposed CCs on this forum? Thanks for the info.

IanHenry · Nov 29, 2018

Many thanks for all the replies, that's been most informative.

Regards,
Ian

Wambemando · Nov 29, 2018

CherryVelour said:
Hmmm, that is interesting indeed.. Would make mine a '16 R9/CC18??.. Didn't know this was a thing! Could you point me in the direction of other repurposed CCs on this forum? Thanks for the info.

Well, it is "a thing", even if Gibson won't admit it.
There are threads on here about it (and at the other forum). There are clues that you can look for. On mine, you can see where they removed the serial/model stamp from the control cavity, and the original stamps are still visible on the back of the headstock (they refinished and restamped that area).
Some of the repurposed CCs have been over-aged to differentiate them from the originals.
With this CC29 VOS, it appears that the only thing that was changed were the pickups (which some argue weren't changed). I was quite happy to pay less than half price for a new CC!

CherryVelour · Nov 29, 2018

Darth Surge said:
Well, it is "a thing", even if Gibson won't admit it.
There are threads on here about it (and at the other forum). There are clues that you can look for. On mine, you can see where they removed the serial/model stamp from the control cavity, and the original stamps are still visible on the back of the headstock (they refinished and restamped that area).
Some of the repurposed CCs have been over-aged to differentiate them from the originals.
With this CC29 VOS, it appears that the only thing that was changed were the pickups (which some argue weren't changed). I was quite happy to pay less than half price for a new CC!

Yeah, I got mine for a really sweet deal!.. under £3k, which was way less than 2014 spec R9s at the time. Will take a closer look at mine and se if there are any other clues.

I've also got a 2015 ES-390 in Dark Burst which wasn't a thing in 2015 as they were only making 60s Cherry finishes with bit of flame. So fully accept that Gibson does this sort of thing from time to time.

latestarter · Dec 4, 2018

JPP-1 said:
Genuine Hyde glue from the labs of the eccentric Dr. Jekyll. That’s what provides vintage Lester’s with such MONSTEROUSLY good tone.

While Les Paul himself was afraid to fully unleash Mr Hyde, Eric Clapton, Peter Green, Jimmy Page, Duane Allman, Slash, and others had no such reservations.

:hee:salude

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