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    Re: My new 1958 les paull replica

    Quote Originally Posted by jimeh77 View Post
    Is this the longest thread ever?
    possibly the most testosterone fueled one

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    Re: My new 1958 les paull replica

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    I laugh to scorn the idea that Gibson can't make their own guitars in their own image.
    I disagree. Perhaps the Bursts, they have indeed made some convincing copies with nice ageing and have managed to get the colour right; but as for the Goldtops, I've never seen anything convincing at all. Their relic (light ageing) just looks like someone has taken a razor blade to the top, and that's about it. And as for the heavy relics, well they look ridiculous.


    This is the latest out of the custom shop:








    This was another heavy relic (True Historic) that was a UK special that I actually played, and I really liked the feel and the weight; neck felt amazing and it was really resonant unplugged; but it was as ugly as sin so no way could I walk away with that unless it was heavily discounted to enable me to refinish it!












    A complete joke! looks like they just took a blow torch to it. and they wanted £5k (reduced from £7k as it had been sitting around unsold for 2 years)

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    Re: My new 1958 les paull replica

    Why I choose custom builders? Exhibit A...



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    Re: My new 1958 les paull replica

    And by the way, Has anyone else seen the Gibson website? It's completely changed, there aren't any reissues... It completely redesigned and not for the better, I'm afraid... I think this is the Death Rattle for the Customshop..

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    Don't see a lot wrong with this contemporaneous Gibson made guitar......
    Shakespeare walks into a pub, the Landlord says "get out, you're Bard"

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    Re: My new 1958 les paull replica

    looks great to me !!
    Ive never confused owning a bunch of high end gear with being some kind of a guitar player I'm a hack and I love guitars

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    Re: My new 1958 les paull replica

    Quote Originally Posted by ourmaninthenorth View Post
    h


    Don't see a lot wrong with this contemporaneous Gibson made guitar......
    There is hardly any aging on it. Which may be how it’s meant to be, but they cannot go any further than that before they totally botch it up.

    This is how a light relic should be done:



    (Sorry I cant link the pics from my phone)


    https://www.vintageandrare.com/produ...Goldtop-70361#

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    Re: My new 1958 les paull replica

    Quote Originally Posted by Patek View Post
    There is hardly any aging on it. Which may be how it’s meant to be, but they cannot go any further than that before they totally botch it up.

    This is how a light relic should be done:



    (Sorry I cant link the pics from my phone)


    https://www.vintageandrare.com/produ...Goldtop-70361#


    For the sake of discretion, I demur to comment on the guitar you've linked.

    I've had both guitars in hand, suffice to say, I completely disagree with you.
    Shakespeare walks into a pub, the Landlord says "get out, you're Bard"

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    Re: My new 1958 les paull replica

    Quote Originally Posted by Patek View Post

    This is how a light relic should be done:


    https://www.vintageandrare.com/produ...Goldtop-70361#
    This thing looks hideous.
    The one posted by OMITN is very realistic.
    This one, not at all.


    But, it does say Gibson on it, so I'm sure the posers will love it.
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    Re: My new 1958 les paull replica

    I guess this post makes me a liar!

    couldn't stay away I guess.

    man first off that green one looks really weird to me.

    but I want to say that the CC 15 I had looked and felt great!

    its probably the only guitar I've sold that I REALLY wish I could get back. I've offered the fella too.... maybe at some point he'll give

    I don't have any experience holding or playing any real bursts but I thought this one really had a nice relic job on it...

    so whether or not they STILL have anyone there who can do it who knows... but I do think they had some great artists there (I think this is circa 2014)

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    Re: My new 1958 les paull replica

    Quote Originally Posted by Pellman73 View Post
    I don't have any experience holding or playing any real bursts but I thought this one really had a nice relic job on it...


    Well that's just sad. Many years back around '05 to '08 or so when I went to shows via a dealer & on my own there were a few owners happy to share. Last time I was in Rumble Seat here in Nashville the fella at the counter insisted I play one (and more) after I told him I could afford a pack of strings. Beyond random unsolicited experiences and a couple walk ins at the shop I've played at least 15 or so PAF Les Pauls from the 50's IIRC.

    On the flip side, I'll admit to having been to a lot of places where I get a dirty look if I walk to close to, gasp, a guitar priced at 4 figures and I remember feeling like an outcast the first time I saw a 50's strat behind a glass case

    It's just funny how the mix of their popularity/rarity kind of grow together to a point where they're like an enigma.




    You're an enthusiast of the highest degree, if you're ever in Nashville go to Rumble Seat and if you get the chance to go to the Philly or Arlington or Villa Park (if it's still around?) guitar shows. You might have a religious experience or you might think "man this is cool as ****" playing this piece of history.

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    Re: My new 1958 les paull replica

    Quote Originally Posted by deytookerjaabs View Post
    Well that's just sad. Many years back around '05 to '08 or so when I went to shows via a dealer & on my own there were a few owners happy to share. Last time I was in Rumble Seat here in Nashville the fella at the counter insisted I play one (and more) after I told him I could afford a pack of strings. Beyond random unsolicited experiences and a couple walk ins at the shop I've played at least 15 or so PAF Les Pauls from the 50's IIRC.

    On the flip side, I'll admit to having been to a lot of places where I get a dirty look if I walk to close to, gasp, a guitar priced at 4 figures and I remember feeling like an outcast the first time I saw a 50's strat behind a glass case

    It's just funny how the mix of their popularity/rarity kind of grow together to a point where they're like an enigma.




    You're an enthusiast of the highest degree, if you're ever in Nashville go to Rumble Seat and if you get the chance to go to the Philly or Arlington or Villa Park (if it's still around?) guitar shows. You might have a religious experience or you might think "man this is cool as ****" playing this piece of history.
    Its not a matter of if but when!

    My life and job make it hard for me to get away

    I would love to do everything and above that you describe

    maybe if Corpse and I head up to Nashville you could meet us (aren't you around there)

    We've talked about a trip

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    Re: My new 1958 les paull replica

    Quote Originally Posted by Pellman73 View Post
    Its not a matter of if but when!

    My life and job make it hard for me to get away

    I would love to do everything and above that you describe

    maybe if Corpse and I head up to Nashville you could meet us (aren't you around there)

    We've talked about a trip


    Heck yeah I'd be down with that

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    Re: My new 1958 les paull replica

    Quote Originally Posted by Pellman73 View Post
    Its not a matter of if but when!

    My life and job make it hard for me to get away

    I would love to do everything and above that you describe

    maybe if Corpse and I head up to Nashville you could meet us (aren't you around there)

    We've talked about a trip
    Not sure if this is what you're referring to or not, but you should try and make it to the Nashville guitar show (in Franklin) April 6th and 7th. You'll probably be able to meet up with a lot of people from this forum at that show. I'm hoping to make it there myself.


    Frank

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    Re: My new 1958 les paull replica

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Wittrock View Post
    This thing looks hideous.
    The one posted by OMITN is very realistic.
    This one, not at all.


    But, it does say Gibson on it, so I'm sure the posers will love it.

    Wow, I kind of feel the same way about you as a musician and a guitar player. You've got a lot of guts calling people you don't even know "posers".

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    Re: My new 1958 les paull replica

    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBURST View Post
    Wow, I kind of feel the same way about you as a musician and a guitar player. You've got a lot of guts calling people you don't even know "posers".
    And yet, you also call me a poser and you don't know me. Go figure.
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    Re: My new 1958 les paull replica

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Wittrock View Post
    And yet, you also call me a poser and you don't know me. Go figure.

    No, I clearly said "I kind of feel the same way" ... I think it takes a great deal of nerve to call a bunch of guys on this forum "posers" because
    they own replica Les Pauls, some of us own some great vintage guitars also. I can't believe you would say that.

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    Re: My new 1958 les paull replica

    it's not a replica if the real company is still in business. it's a fake

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    Re: My new 1958 les paull replica

    Quote Originally Posted by JReeves View Post
    it's not a replica if the real company is still in business. it's a fake

    If you want to pay Gibson 6 or 7 k for a reissue of a 59 with plastic lacquers, farm raised wood and electronics that are not even close to
    an original 59, that is your right to do so, I'd rather pay a private luthier to use old growth woods and the correct parts true to
    a 59. You can call replicas fakes all day long, it doesn't bother me. I like them for the tone and the feel. I pickup the Gibson true historics
    and feel as though those are fake 59's.. They're still great guitars, but not as true to a 59 as some of us would like. It's about what you like.

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    Re: My new 1958 les paull replica

    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBURST View Post
    No, I clearly said "I kind of feel the same way" ... I think it takes a great deal of nerve to call a bunch of guys on this forum "posers" because they own replica Les Pauls, some of us own some great vintage guitars also. I can't believe you would say that.
    I didn't say it was because they owned them. Go back and read my posts. You have jumped to the wrong conclusion.

    I call people "posers" who demand that Gibson and Les Paul be written on their replicas and will not buy them otherwise.

    I also asked what other purpose is their for forging these names and never got an answer.
    Please answer that question NYCBURST.
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    Re: My new 1958 les paull replica

    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBURST View Post
    If you want to pay Gibson 6 or 7 k for a reissue of a 59 with plastic lacquers, farm raised wood and electronics that are not even close to
    an original 59, that is your right to do so, I'd rather pay a private luthier to use old growth woods and the correct parts true to
    a 59. You can call replicas fakes all day long, it doesn't bother me. I like them for the tone and the feel. I pickup the Gibson true historics
    and feel as though those are fake 59's.. They're still great guitars, but not as true to a 59 as some of us would like. It's about what you like.
    And where does the forged logos play into this "better" guitar?
    Do these guitars play and sound better because the logos? I defy anyone to prove that.

    If it's about "what you like", would you own one that did not have the forged logos?
    If not, why not?
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    Re: My new 1958 les paull replica

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Wittrock View Post
    I didn't say it was because they owned them. Go back and read my posts. You have jumped to the wrong conclusion.

    I call people "posers" who demand that Gibson and Les Paul be written on their replicas and will not buy them otherwise.

    I also asked what other purpose is their for forging these names and never got an answer.
    Please answer that question NYCBURST.
    Tom, Why would you Have a complete replica without the logo?

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    Re: My new 1958 les paull replica

    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBURST View Post
    Tom, Why would you Have a complete replica without the logo?
    well it's not a replica it's a fake, a ripoff. Otherwise it would not have Gibson on it as they are still in business.

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    Re: My new 1958 les paull replica

    Quote Originally Posted by JReeves View Post
    well it's not a replica it's a fake, a ripoff. Otherwise it would not have Gibson on it as they are still in business.

    Yeah, I heard you the first time, big guy..

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    Re: My new 1958 les paull replica

    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBURST View Post
    Tom, Why would you Have a complete replica without the logo?
    I do not now, nor have I ever owned a replica. You are dead wrong there!

    And, you dodged my question.
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