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    2018 50th Anniversary 1968 Les Paul Customs and Goldtops

    2018 Gibson Custom 50th Anniversary 1968 Les Paul Custom and 1968 Les Paul Goldtop. Custom limited to 300 total. Goldtop limited to 68 total. (Sorry for quality. Screenshots from Instagram)

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    Re: 2018 50th Anniversary 1968 Les Paul Customs and Goldtops

    Nicely aged binding not neon yellow and this one weighs 9lbs!

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    Re: 2018 50th Anniversary 1968 Les Paul Customs and Goldtops

    I just spoke to a buddy of mine at Gibson Custom and he confirmed that those are leaked early drafts of a dealer product one-sheet. He said consumer release will be in two weeks.

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    Re: 2018 50th Anniversary 1968 Les Paul Customs and Goldtops

    It's going to be hard for me to pass on that LPC if a good weight and neck angle comes along.

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    Better shot of the back plate. These are starting to roll out.


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    Re: 2018 50th Anniversary 1968 Les Paul Customs and Goldtops

    It's the reissue of the very first reissue!
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    It looks a lot like the one used by Jimmy Page..." Paul McCartney

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    Re: 2018 50th Anniversary 1968 Les Paul Customs and Goldtops

    Quote Originally Posted by Mars Hall View Post
    It's the reissue of the very first reissue!
    Exactly! Essentially a '56 Goldtop. I wonder if these 50th Anniversary '68 Goldtops will have chrome hardware and the lower headstock angle? It was tough to read the pamphlet so I couldn't discern this. They looked heavily aged, while the Custom says they will be a VOS appointment.

    Curious what the prices will be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BGReed2 View Post
    Exactly! Essentially a '56 Goldtop. I wonder if these 50th Anniversary '68 Goldtops will have chrome hardware and the lower headstock angle? It was tough to read the pamphlet so I couldn't discern this. They looked heavily aged, while the Custom says they will be a VOS appointment.

    Curious what the prices will be.
    I was able to squint and read those specs. Chrome hardware and 14 degree headstock angle confirmed. Your guess is as good as any on MSRP.
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    Re: 2018 50th Anniversary 1968 Les Paul Customs and Goldtops

    These can be very interesting!

    Anybody with some info about 68 Custom humbucker?
    My diagnosis is: Hiwatt and Norlinphilia


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    Re: 2018 50th Anniversary 1968 Les Paul Customs and Goldtops

    Nylon saddles! Wow!

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    Re: 2018 50th Anniversary 1968 Les Paul Customs and Goldtops

    Quote Originally Posted by Evol View Post
    Nylon saddles! Wow!
    Which in fact were on later 69 Customs, but its not surprising for Gibson.
    My diagnosis is: Hiwatt and Norlinphilia


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    Re: 2018 50th Anniversary 1968 Les Paul Customs and Goldtops

    Here are some photos:

    https://www.j-guitar.com/product_id1301882.html
    http://www.rockin.co.jp/shop/archives/58731.html

    Not much historically accurate:

    wrong headstock shape, too big frets, nylon saddles werent on 68s (perhaps on some very few latest ones, as an exception), too shallow top, low bridge pickup ring, still the wrong shape of last second and third inlay (from neck pickup), wrong inscription on truss rod cover

    They could have done it better...
    Last edited by Progrocker111; 06-04-18 at 12:45 AM.
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    Re: 2018 50th Anniversary 1968 Les Paul Customs and Goldtops

    Quote Originally Posted by Mars Hall View Post
    It's the reissue of the very first reissue!
    I agree, a reissue of a reissue .... sounds silly ..pass

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arnold M. View Post
    I agree, a reissue of a reissue .... sounds silly ..pass
    In fact its the only possibility to have classical maple topped LP Custom with long neck tenon and ebony fretboard these days.

    And dont forget, that the real 68s werent only the reissues - the maple top and T-Top pickups gave them in fact very different tonality in comparison to older all-mahogany 57-60 LP Customs.
    My diagnosis is: Hiwatt and Norlinphilia


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    Re: 2018 50th Anniversary 1968 Les Paul Customs and Goldtops

    So the pickups will be Custombuckers ? Also I could not tell if the serial # was inked ? on or imprinted into the wood ?

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    Looks pretty RAD. Is that logo correct for 68/69?
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    Re: 2018 50th Anniversary 1968 Les Paul Customs and Goldtops

    For the gold top...additional details on the originals:
    - strap button by neck mounted too high
    - ABR bridge posts in wrong position, required repositioning to set intonation
    - high neck angle
    - ‘crown’ inlay for headstock overlay
    - straight walls for control cavity carving
    - gumdrop caps for the tone pots
    - ‘busy’ looking inlays for fretboard
    - wide binding in cutout
    - flatter arches on the top of headstock

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    Re: 2018 50th Anniversary 1968 Les Paul Customs and Goldtops

    Quote Originally Posted by toxpert View Post
    For the gold top...additional details on the originals:
    - strap button by neck mounted too high
    - ABR bridge posts in wrong position, required repositioning to set intonation
    - high neck angle
    - ‘crown’ inlay for headstock overlay
    - straight walls for control cavity carving
    - gumdrop caps for the tone pots
    - ‘busy’ looking inlays for fretboard
    - wide binding in cutout
    - flatter arches on the top of headstock
    The crown inlay on the head was only used on a few early ones. I have had both versions - with and without the crown. But the caps are probably different on them. Some had gum drop brown caps, others had black beauty caps. And yes, the shape of the route in the control cavity on the 1968s had 4 sides that were all rounded. Earlier and later guitars had 1 or 2 flat sides.
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    Re: 2018 50th Anniversary 1968 Les Paul Customs and Goldtops

    Nice guitar, but low bridge pickup ring on 68 Custom?

    Oh Gibson...
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    Re: 2018 50th Anniversary 1968 Les Paul Customs and Goldtops

    A friend a 1968 LPC , had a tiny sticker on head stock with red script Fretless wonder , very nice guitar the frets made the guitar challenging for me to play he loved these fret's . These RI 68's look very nice really like the LPC !
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    Re: 2018 50th Anniversary 1968 Les Paul Customs and Goldtops

    Quote Originally Posted by Progrocker111 View Post
    These can be very interesting!

    Anybody with some info about 68 Custom humbucker?
    Prog!

    These are the Edwin Wilson designed custom winds to emulate T-Tops that he created for the 68 Reissue a few years ago (the one with the notorious binding color, although my original has very similar coloring). I believe these will have the thinner spec metal in the covers though. Cool!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Progrocker111 View Post
    Which in fact were on later 69 Customs, but its not surprising for Gibson.
    All early literature / pictures have nylon saddles. As do other models in the era. The saddles were crazy easy to swap out, and many did back in the day. Is it possible that some shipped with metal saddles? Maybe, but I believe that the vast, vast, vast majority shipped with nylon.

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    Re: 2018 50th Anniversary 1968 Les Paul Customs and Goldtops

    Quote Originally Posted by dleake View Post
    Better shot of the back plate. These are starting to roll out.



    Cool! The final website promises a blank plastic one for those who don't like the medallion look.

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    I am seeing a D-shaped heel which is a cool feature. That plus hide glue plus the premiere of the orange-lined case outweighs the low pickup ring to me by a mile. A set of rings is like $15, I would not pass on this guitar for that!

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    Over all I like it , except for the 14 degree peghead angle, the witch hat knobs,the nylon saddles and nylon nut.I can take or leave the waffleback tuners .Other than that this reissue is a winner and slam dunk in my book and I love the lightweight stopbar tailpiece and I am most intrigued by the 68 Custombuckers that Edwin Wilson based on a set of T-Tops .If I did not have my early reissue Black Beauty I would be all over this instrument in a nano second as this was my first electric as a kid.Good job Gibson ! Kudos to Gibson for the wiring harness with the 500k pots and Sprague Black Beauty caps !

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    I don't like the relic job on the Standard, they should have offered an NOS version for players who don't want relic-ing. I have seen original '68 Standards in better condition than the mess they made of the finish on the RI.
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    Re: 2018 50th Anniversary 1968 Les Paul Customs and Goldtops

    Speaking of the finishes, I don't know why Gibson insists on putting that hazy goop on VOS Custom tops. 99% of vintage Les Paul Customs I've seen have had really hard looking glossy tops. Lots of dirt and checking but glossy not dull.

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    Re: 2018 50th Anniversary 1968 Les Paul Customs and Goldtops

    Quote Originally Posted by El Gringo View Post
    Over all I like it , except for the 14 degree peghead angle, the witch hat knobs,the nylon saddles and nylon nut.I can take or leave the waffleback tuners .Other than that this reissue is a winner and slam dunk in my book and I love the lightweight stopbar tailpiece and I am most intrigued by the 68 Custombuckers that Edwin Wilson based on a set of T-Tops .If I did not have my early reissue Black Beauty I would be all over this instrument in a nano second as this was my first electric as a kid.Good job Gibson ! Kudos to Gibson for the wiring harness with the 500k pots and Sprague Black Beauty caps !
    Curious, did the 14 degree peghead, knobs, saddles, nut, & tuners bother you as a kid?

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    Re: 2018 50th Anniversary 1968 Les Paul Customs and Goldtops

    Quote Originally Posted by moonweasel View Post
    Curious, did the 14 degree peghead, knobs, saddles, nut, & tuners bother you as a kid?
    Never even knew about the specs as a kid even though I despised the witch hat knobs because they did not look like those from my Guitar heroes vintage Les Paul's (sunbursts of course) With knowledge gained over the years we know what we want and how we want it as well . The waffleback tuners I hated with a passion as a kid ,because they did not look like my guitar heroes and they sucked staying in tune (honest ) I just feel that with all the thought that went into this reissue that they could have used the 17 degree headstock angle, metal saddles , maybe a bone nut? For tuners maybe Grovers or the plastic ivory colored Klusons . Other than that this reissue is a winner !

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Gringo View Post
    Never even knew about the specs as a kid even though I despised the witch hat knobs because they did not look like those from my Guitar heroes vintage Les Paul's (sunbursts of course) With knowledge gained over the years we know what we want and how we want it as well . The waffleback tuners I hated with a passion as a kid ,because they did not look like my guitar heroes and they sucked staying in tune (honest ) I just feel that with all the thought that went into this reissue that they could have used the 17 degree headstock angle, metal saddles , maybe a bone nut? For tuners maybe Grovers or the plastic ivory colored Klusons . Other than that this reissue is a winner !

    Whatever makes you happy! Just remember, Gibson's effort was to make a 68 Reissue which had all of those features which you now dislike. Everything you mentioned has nothing to do with that year model. To each his own though! Rock on!

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    I have owned 4 late 60s GTs - 2 68s and 2 early 69s. All were in better condition than that aged goldtop!
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    Re: 2018 50th Anniversary 1968 Les Paul Customs and Goldtops

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyace2006 View Post
    I have owned 4 late 60s GTs - 2 68s and 2 early 69s. All were in better condition than that aged goldtop!
    Were these guitars quite heavy? My friend bought his '68 Goldtop new and it was very heavy, so he eventually sold it. I bought a used '68 GT in the late 70's and it was extremely heavy. I kept it for a few years but got tired of the weight and traded it in for the '69 Custom I still own. It weighs 9 lbs 2 oz, but with Grovers (recently replaced by reissue green button wafflebacks). Before I got the GT I had a nice '68 Custom which was around 9 pounds. I have yet to hear of a GT from this era that was not heavy.

    The 50th Anniversary '68 Goldtop is grossly overdone. Are they honestly all going to be issued like that?
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    Re: 2018 50th Anniversary 1968 Les Paul Customs and Goldtops

    Quote Originally Posted by BGReed2 View Post
    Were these guitars quite heavy? My friend bought his '68 Goldtop new and it was very heavy, so he eventually sold it. I bought a used '68 GT in the late 70's and it was extremely heavy. I kept it for a few years but got tired of the weight and traded it in for the '69 Custom I still own. It weighs 9 lbs 2 oz, but with Grovers (recently replaced by reissue green button wafflebacks). Before I got the GT I had a nice '68 Custom which was around 9 pounds. I have yet to hear of a GT from this era that was not heavy.

    The 50th Anniversary '68 Goldtop is grossly overdone. Are they honestly all going to be issued like that?
    Re: weight ---

    They were not all heavy. They varied as much as 50's guitars did - across the same range of weights. I have seen in the 8's, in the 9's, and in the 10's for LSLPs. The "internet consensus" is that LSLPs in 68 were generally lighter than 69 guitars, and all LSLP's were generally lighter than 70's LP's. None of this is based on any data though, at least not across enough instruments to make a reliable statistical conclusion. Thus, the phrase "internet consensus".

    My early '69 LPC is 9.4 lbs with Grovers. Would be about 9 with Wafflebacks. (there was a thread on the LPF ages ago where people weighed the various tuners).

    These 50th Anniversary reissues are spec'ed on the website as being sorted for light mahogany.

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    Re: 2018 50th Anniversary 1968 Les Paul Customs and Goldtops

    Quote Originally Posted by BGReed2 View Post
    Were these guitars quite heavy? My friend bought his '68 Goldtop new and it was very heavy, so he eventually sold it. I bought a used '68 GT in the late 70's and it was extremely heavy. I kept it for a few years but got tired of the weight and traded it in for the '69 Custom I still own. It weighs 9 lbs 2 oz, but with Grovers (recently replaced by reissue green button wafflebacks). Before I got the GT I had a nice '68 Custom which was around 9 pounds. I have yet to hear of a GT from this era that was not heavy.

    The 50th Anniversary '68 Goldtop is grossly overdone. Are they honestly all going to be issued like that?
    Depends on your definition of heavy. I believe the LP Custom was about 9.25-9.5lbs. The 4 Gold tops were all between 9.0-9.5lbs.

    Grovers add about half a pound.

    They only shipped out 433 LP Customs in 1968. When someone tells me they had a 68, I always want them to show me pics to prove it was a real 68 bc in many cases, it was built in 69 or later.

    1968 models are not known to be any heavier than their 1950s counterparts. It is the ones made after mid 1969 that are usually the heavy ones. Some people blame it on the extra glue they used to put all the pieces together. I don't think that it is the glue. Likely the wood.


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    Re: 2018 50th Anniversary 1968 Les Paul Customs and Goldtops

    Thanks, JimmyAce. Good info.

    Extra weight because of more glue? Really?
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    Re: 2018 50th Anniversary 1968 Les Paul Customs and Goldtops

    Quote Originally Posted by BGReed2 View Post
    Thanks, JimmyAce. Good info.

    Extra weight because of more glue? Really?
    If they used lead glue.

    There's no way it's glue that makes the difference between a 9lb LP and a 12lb Norlin guitar. It's the density of the bodies and later the maple (more dense than hog) necks.

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