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    52-59 conversion. What do you guys think of this one?

    I have to say it is one of the best looking sunbursts Iíve ever seen, especially for a conversion. I bet they didnít expect a top like this underneath the gold..

    If I had the readies Iíd definitely pull the trigger on this. I hope one day it comes up again when Iím ready!

    Sorry I canít link the pics. What do you guys think ?


    https://reverb.com/item/11570690-gib...t#&gid=1&pid=1

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    Re: 52-59 conversion. What do you guys think of this one?

    Quote Originally Posted by Patek View Post
    I bet they didnít expect a top like this underneath the gold..

    The ad says it has been re-topped, so the original top probably was nothing like this one.
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    Re: 52-59 conversion. What do you guys think of this one?

    And then there's the question of the 59 serial number.

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    Re: 52-59 conversion. What do you guys think of this one?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maxmc View Post
    And then there's the question of the 59 serial number.
    Yes, a number that very likely is still on a real Burst.
    Maybe this was built to deceive or defraud.
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    Re: 52-59 conversion. What do you guys think of this one?

    Nice inlays.
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    Re: 52-59 conversion. What do you guys think of this one?

    I like how the product listing lists year as 1959.
    For $40k i'd expect the poker chip and jackplate to be vintage, or at least accurate repro's, not to mention the knobs, truss rod cover (which isn't disclosed in the listing), pointers, rings, pickgaurd, and nut. You know, all cheap cheap things to source to make this thing more complete down the road. The cherry filler around the neck to body joint also leaves a lot to be desired at $40k. IMO

    Let's take a $20k'ish guitar, toss a couple of grand worth of work into it, and now sell it for double?

    At least the cutaway horn looks super '59 accurate in shape
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    Re: 52-59 conversion. What do you guys think of this one?

    Killer piece of maple, no doubt.

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    Re: 52-59 conversion. What do you guys think of this one?

    For those $$ I'd want something more original, top and parts, looks like it may have a good fat neck though.
    And a '59 serial number is bad news.

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    Re: 52-59 conversion. What do you guys think of this one?

    Another 52/59 for sale in Sweden:

    https://mobil.blocket.se/annons/hall...rsion/78023391
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    Re: 52-59 conversion. What do you guys think of this one?

    Double post sorry
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    Re: 52-59 conversion. What do you guys think of this one?

    Quote Originally Posted by goldtop0 View Post
    For those $$ I'd want something more original, top and parts, looks like it may have a good fat neck though.
    And a '59 serial number is bad news.
    Yeah, is really kind of trap for people who aren't too knowlegable about conversions. For that scratch you could get a real nice '54-'55 or a Dot Neck. Jeez.
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    Re: 52-59 conversion. What do you guys think of this one?

    Quote Originally Posted by mistersnappy View Post
    For that scratch you could get a real nice '54-'55 or a Dot Neck. Jeez.
    Exactly. One with a legitimate pedigree, not a mongrel.

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    Re: 52-59 conversion. What do you guys think of this one?

    Wow I didnít notice it had been retopped !!

    i would pass on it on that basis then. Iíd rather have the ugly old top if it was that bad as I think they have plenty of mojo

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    Re: 52-59 conversion. What do you guys think of this one?

    I saw one for sale on FB recently that had a real nice original top and lots if/not all the parts. But they wanted $35k. I'll see if I can find it.


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    1956 to 1959 Conversion - $37.5k - California
    You won’t get any closer to a burst than this. Started out as a 1956 Gold top.
    Has since been recently refinished by Historic Makeovers
    Has Original maple top Brazilian fretboard and original silkscreen and finish on headstock. All other parts are
    1959 unopened Pafs
    1959 CTS Pots
    1956 switch harness and jack
    Original 1956 switch tip
    1959 pickup hight adjustment screws and springs
    Black back plates from 50s special
    1959 rolled truss rod cover
    1956 stop tailpiece
    1959 long studs and receptacles
    1959 Tuners
    Frets by Gary Brawer
    1956 Gibson Case
    Montreaux switch ring and jack plate
    Time Barrett PU rings and pick guard
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    Re: 52-59 conversion. What do you guys think of this one?

    Maybe I missed it but I don't see anything written about the pickups so I guess they could be anything?

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    Re: 52-59 conversion. What do you guys think of this one?

    Quote Originally Posted by sws1 View Post
    1959 unopened Pafs
    Quote Originally Posted by Ferdie3564 View Post
    Maybe I missed it but I don't see anything written about the pickups so I guess they could be anything?
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    Re: 52-59 conversion. What do you guys think of this one?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ferdie3564 View Post
    Maybe I missed it but I don't see anything written about the pickups so I guess they could be anything?
    The guitar in the OP says PAFs.
    The guitar I posted says unopened PAFs.

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    Re: 52-59 conversion. What do you guys think of this one?

    Quote Originally Posted by sws1 View Post
    The guitar in the OP says PAFs.
    The guitar I posted says unopened PAFs.
    Sorry for not clarifying. I was referring to the Reverb Ad link provided by OP.

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    Re: 52-59 conversion. What do you guys think of this one?

    Quote Originally Posted by sws1 View Post
    I saw one for sale on FB recently that had a real nice original top and lots if/not all the parts. But they wanted $35k. I'll see if I can find it.


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    1956 to 1959 Conversion - $37.5k - California

    That's a great top isn't it

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    Re: 52-59 conversion. What do you guys think of this one?

    Here's another one. It's been given a 58 serial number. Grandpa's axe again. https://reverb.com/item/11611266-gib...-1958-sunburst

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    Re: 52-59 conversion. What do you guys think of this one?

    Quote Originally Posted by buyusfear View Post
    I like how the product listing lists year as 1959.
    For $40k i'd expect the poker chip and jackplate to be vintage, or at least accurate repro's, not to mention the knobs, truss rod cover (which isn't disclosed in the listing), pointers, rings, pickgaurd, and nut. You know, all cheap cheap things to source to make this thing more complete down the road. The cherry filler around the neck to body joint also leaves a lot to be desired at $40k. IMO

    Let's take a $20k'ish guitar, toss a couple of grand worth of work into it, and now sell it for double?

    At least the cutaway horn looks super '59 accurate in shape
    Reverb listing has been updated since, I guess, and they probably read your post. It's listed for $29,500 now.

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    Re: 52-59 conversion. What do you guys think of this one?

    Quote Originally Posted by goldtop0 View Post
    That's a great top isn't it
    isn't that Historic Makeover's painter holding up that guitar ?? I recognize that tattoo anywhere ...

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    Re: 52-59 conversion. What do you guys think of this one?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arnold M. View Post
    isn't that Historic Makeover's painter holding up that guitar ?? I recognize that tattoo anywhere ...
    You are correct.

    Hereís a thread on the other forum which details this nicely done conversion: http://www.mylespaul.com/threads/new...uccess.401906/


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    Re: 52-59 conversion. What do you guys think of this one?

    Quote Originally Posted by Patek View Post
    I have to say it is one of the best looking sunbursts Iíve ever seen, especially for a conversion. I bet they didnít expect a top like this underneath the gold..

    If I had the readies Iíd definitely pull the trigger on this. I hope one day it comes up again when Iím ready!

    Sorry I canít link the pics. What do you guys think ?


    https://reverb.com/item/11570690-gib...t#&gid=1&pid=1
    A retop as well?? really now

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