The Fender Forum
NEW! LPF Facebook Page
NEW! LPF Instagram Page
Merchandise & Donations
NEW! Burst Serial Log Home Page
LPF Homesite
Results 1 to 14 of 14

Thread: New ES-335's

  1. #1

    New ES-335's

    There is a huge price difference between the new Memphis Es-335's and the Custom Shop ones. What is the difference in build quality? What are you getting for the extra $2000?

  2. #2

    Re: New ES-335's

    I have a 2014 Dot Reissue (the standard USA stamped model) and a new '59 Reissue. The standard model compares surprisingly well. I have absolutely loved owning it. The '59, however, does reveal itself in the most subtle ways. It has more acoustic qualities, it looks much more faithful to actual "real" 59 335's. I got mine in one of the CME blowout deals and didn't pay much more than I paid for the 2014. I would NOT have spent $2K more, but that says more about how good the Standard model is to begin with. And it should be; it is a $3K guitar.

    So, to me, it comes down to 1. can you find a great deal on a Custom Shop RI? and 2. how important are the Historical appointments to you?

    I could live with the 2014 Standard model as my one and only for life. Great guitar. I love it. However, I tend to play the '59 RI almost exclusively now that it is in my possession.

    My nephew recently stated his preference for the 2014 Standard.

    I will also say the '59 RI had a few QC shortcomings that a guitar of that level should not have. They aren't permanent and were nitpicky but shouldn't have existed AT ALL.

    2014



    '59 RI

    Last edited by mdubya; 04-30-18 at 08:11 PM.

  3. #3
    Les Paul Forum Member
    Join Date
    May 2002
    Posts
    1,987

    Re: New ES-335's

    The answer to your question is, try before you buy.
    I have a non custom shop and I cannot imagine a customshop sounding better.

  4. #4
    Les Paul Forum Member Pellman73's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2016
    Location
    Pinehurst, NC
    Posts
    1,698

    Re: New ES-335's

    Try to find a warren Haynes

    can get for 3-3500 used and they are the shnizzle

    not just my opinion...

  5. #5

    Re: New ES-335's

    Any of the recent CS 3xx's seem to be really nice. The specifications set them apart. I have a VOS '58, played it yesterday and it amazed me several times. The spec's were the reason I chose the '58. No binding on the neck (.90/1.00), historic truss rod, MM ears, hide glue etc. I did change the MHS pickups and after a long search found Wolfetone Legends gave me what I wanted to hear. I have a little experience with ES models. Had a '59 es345 for a while, a long time ago. As I remember this '58 is right up there. I REALLY like this guitar.

    http://

  6. #6
    Les Paul Forum Member P.Walker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    New Jersey
    Posts
    943

    Re: New ES-335's

    Quote Originally Posted by mr kenny View Post
    Any of the recent CS 3xx's seem to be really nice. The specifications set them apart. I have a VOS '58, played it yesterday and it amazed me several times. The spec's were the reason I chose the '58. No binding on the neck (.90/1.00), historic truss rod, MM ears, hide glue etc. I did change the MHS pickups and after a long search found Wolfetone Legends gave me what I wanted to hear. I have a little experience with ES models. Had a '59 es345 for a while, a long time ago. As I remember this '58 is right up there. I REALLY like this guitar.
    I played this one a while ago. This has the AXXXXX serial just like the nashvilles used to have right?

    Either way, sounded the best out of the bunch of 335s on the wall, including a 59 nashville vos 335 in blonde. That one had the binding but the 58 had the better tone.

  7. #7

    Re: New ES-335's

    Quote Originally Posted by P.Walker View Post
    I played this one a while ago. This has the AXXXXX serial just like the nashvilles used to have right?

    Either way, sounded the best out of the bunch of 335s on the wall, including a 59 nashville vos 335 in blonde. That one had the binding but the 58 had the better tone.
    The traditional orange label pencil marked ES335TDN with serial# AOXXXX is visible thru the upper F hole.
    There's a noticeable acoustic clarity unplugged.

  8. #8
    Forum Moderator KennyF's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    North-Eastern Pennsylvania
    Posts
    2,359

    Re: New ES-335's

    Quote Originally Posted by Pellman73 View Post
    Try to find a warren Haynes

    can get for 3-3500 used and they are the shnizzle

    not just my opinion...
    My Haynes 335 is my only 335 at the moment... LOVE IT!!!

    To answer the OP's question... The Memphis stuff is pretty damned good... Good enough that I wouldn't spend 2 grand more for essentially the same guitar...

    Stop by and get reacquainted with The all NEW Fender Forum

  9. #9

    Re: New ES-335's

    Do any of the Standard models come with a larger neck profile? If so, which ones?
    Game on!

  10. #10
    Les Paul Forum Member Don's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2001
    Location
    Massachusetts
    Posts
    5,554

    Re: New ES-335's

    Quote Originally Posted by akstrat61 View Post
    Do any of the Standard models come with a larger neck profile? If so, which ones?
    The neck on my 2017 Memphis ES-335 Figured is 1.688" wide at the nut, .852" thick at the first fret, and .970" thick at the 12th. It's not real big, but big enough. I like it.

    It seems like all ES-335s are different. This one is a little less loud and fat acoustically than some that I've played- I was disappointed when I pulled it out of the box and strummed it acoustically! Then I plugged it in and found that it had a focused sound that blew me away- it cuts through and every note is really defined, yet the note seems to have a "bubble around it" that pops as you hit it. It works so well with a band!
    After wanting a real ES-335 for many years and thinking that I knew what I wanted all those years, this guitar changed my expectations of an ES-335.

    I wish I could take a pic of it that looks good. I can't seem to capture the flame and the color. I need to take it outside.
    Last edited by Don; 05-01-18 at 07:36 AM.

  11. #11

    Re: New ES-335's

    The newer Standard models have the "medium" neck as posted by Don ^^^^ .

    If you are used to '58 RI LP's it won't feel big, but if you have guitars with all sorts of differing neck sizes, it is a nice chunky medium neck.

    My ES LP has a similar sized .85" - .95" rounded neck, almost no shoulders, and I love its medium and comfy feel.

    The really big ones are reserved for the RI guitars.

    There is a '58 RI on CME's site for low $3k right now.

    My 2014 Dot RI is .81" - .88" with a wide nut. It is very comfortable to play.

    My '59 RI is the biggest neck on any of my guitars, both width and depth. It makes my ES 330 feel average and the 330 has a huge neck. The '59 still has very mellow shoulders, making it very comfy to play. But it is BIG.

  12. #12
    Les Paul Forum Member 1jamman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    BRW Country, Bahia
    Posts
    611

    Re: New ES-335's

    Quote Originally Posted by jalevinemd View Post
    There is a huge price difference between the new Memphis Es-335's and the Custom Shop ones. What is the difference in build quality? What are you getting for the extra $2000?
    If things are ~ still the same(I haven't been following this lately) All 3X5's bodies are still build in Memphis , It's when those that will be CS builds , the differences start .I'd guess to say the CS might do runs of their own specs at times . So it depends on that 1 or run of guitars .

    IMO , Necks seem to have a different shape (from the 1's I've bought and/or tested) . More hands on work from a CS guitar ? Some Memphis like the '59 RI 335 get different woods in their build , hide glue in some ... It's a Historic Spec build and gets that designation in it's serial number ...Different Pups for Memphis and CS 335's (normally) I don't recall if the pots and harness are somewhat different now . IIRC Memphis uses 550K pots now and CS uses 500K? So there are differences . I'd always go with what plays sounds best for you over any paper spec. differences . it's all about what the end result is ...

    For me ,I bought a 2013/14 (I don't recall off hand right now) Memphis '59 RI Blister top(my 1st 335 and all hide glued spec) and it still is the best 3X5 I've bought or played of all the my new issued 3X5's ....( the interesting thing about that time with Gibson was that much of the 3X5 builds were done at Memphis by CS workers who moved over to Memphis. This run was done at both shops and early COA's are CS )


    I wouldn't get hung up on which shop built it ... more important , imo, how well it works for you ...

  13. #13
    Les Paul Forum Member Red Rogue's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Germany
    Posts
    135

    Re: New ES-335's

    Recently I had the chance to play some expensive Memphis/Custom Shop ES 335. I loved the look and sound of a plain 59 RI CS 335. The one thing that bothered me was the rough Centerblock and the F-holes. At this price point I would expect that even those non visible parts would have been sanded.
    Maybe it is a "historic" feature, but is it common for Gibsons 335?


    - Blues is the road -

  14. #14
    Les Paul Forum Member Trans-Am's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2001
    Location
    BC, Canada
    Posts
    4,586

    Re: New ES-335's

    Makes me wonder why the 2016 Memphis line up of the Studio is more expensive at one time than the currently Studio lineup.

    Depending on the year as the new ones offered are cheaper with only difference of the neck material/gig bag as opposed to the HSC offered in 2016

    Not sure if it still comes with a COA? in which mine came with.
    Am sure glad I found one NOS demo model with HSC and COA/pickguard included but not installed.

    IMG_2696

    The Studio line has got to be the best bang for you buck that you shouldn't dismiss before you dig deep in your rich pockets.

    Cheers!
    Old WOOD Is Good WOOD !!!

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  


Scroll Down And Click On All Of Our Sponsors' Logos For Their Websites!






i