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    Re: Current bursts for sale...

    Thanks Scott!
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    Re: Current bursts for sale...

    Dave Hinson (Killer Vintage) might be a good source to speak with if you are interested. There is a good chance he has been over this guitar.

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    Re: Current bursts for sale...

    So, I noticed that serial number - 9 1966 - is not listed in the burst serial log. What is the protocol for making it onto that listing?

  4. #364

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    Quote Originally Posted by sws1 View Post
    S/n 9 1966
    Description from the auction:
    ... The neck pickup is zebra and reads 9.1 ohms and the bridge pickup is double black and reads 15.0 ohms...

    All the pics are here: https://entertainment.ha.com/itm/vin...ription-071515

    I wonder how that it ended up with that reading…

    The top reminds me of 9 1970 a bit, with the wide, irregular figure (looks quarter sawn though).

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    Re: Current bursts for sale...

    Quote Originally Posted by Hobbyist View Post
    So, I noticed that serial number - 9 1966 - is not listed in the burst serial log. What is the protocol for making it onto that listing?
    Contact Julio [the website owner] and he'll tell you what you need to submit to get your guitar listed.
    Includes photos of the guitar including critical areas like neck joint, control cavity and serial number.
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  6. #366

    Re: Current bursts for sale...

    Thanks Tom. I don't have a dog in this hunt. Wish I did. Was thinking for posterity about this particular guitar.
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    Re: Current bursts for sale...

    Quote Originally Posted by sws1 View Post
    S/n 9 1966
    Description from the auction:
    1959 Gibson Les Paul Standard Sunburst Solid Body Electric Guitar, Serial # 9 1966. An original 1959 Gibson Les Paul Burst. The top on this guitar is amazing and really pops in the sunlight. This guitar had Grover tuners; holes filled and re-drilled. The jack plate looks correct but there are additional filled holes from a larger jack at some point. There is a top crack stemming from the neck pickup tone control. Does not appear to have been repaired, nor does it seem necessary. Pots and caps are correct. The neck pickup is zebra and reads 9.1 ohms and the bridge pickup is double black and reads 15.0 ohms. It appears to have had a professional quality refret. The back and the neck have been oversprayed along with minor touch up on the headstock. The touch-up & overspray were done at Paul Hamer and Jol Dantzig's guitar shop, Northern Prairie Music in the late 70's according to the owner and Jol Dantzig. The owner bought this guitar circa 1973. The pickup covers were removed and played that way for a long time. Bobbins show wear from play. Two tuner buttons are replaced. Normal wear from play and checking is present. Finish wear to the back at the bass side middle bout edge, as well as bumps along the bottom edge. There is also a scrape on the back of the neck at the 3rd to 4th fret. It does not a appear to be a crack or a break. This guitar is two serial numbers away from Duane Allman's Burst! Great action and amazing sound! 9.4 lbs. Original hard case included. Condition: Very Good. LOA from Jol Dantzig.

    "One of the better sounding Les Paul's I've ever heard." Dave Hinson-Killer Vintage Specialty Guitars.


    All the pics are here: https://entertainment.ha.com/itm/vin...ription-071515


    Am I the only one who thinks the top looks refinished?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ Blair View Post
    Am I the only one who thinks the top looks refinished?
    It certainly looks strange.
    If I owned this, I would ask them to post more and better photos. The fact that they do not post cavity photos is disappointing and scary. In this day and age that should be a requirement and the lack of these photos is suspicious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Wittrock View Post
    It certainly looks strange.
    If I owned this, I would ask them to post more and better photos. The fact that they do not post cavity photos is disappointing and scary. In this day and age that should be a requirement and the lack of these photos is suspicious.
    15 ohms resistance for one of the pickups? Not saying it isn’t possible but definitely an outlier if real.

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    Re: Current bursts for sale...

    I'm at work so can't access Instagram to post links but does anyone know anything about the burst that Neal Schon just bought? He has pictures up on his profile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLuesGuitarMart View Post
    I'm at work so can't access Instagram to post links but does anyone know anything about the burst that Neal Schon just bought? He has pictures up on his profile.
    Here's a pic. He's been buying a ton of guitars of late. I think maybe JB is offering him guidance? This 59 and a bunch of 50s Strat's.


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    Re: Current bursts for sale...

    Quote Originally Posted by thxphotog View Post
    Here's a pic. He's been buying a ton of guitars of late. I think maybe JB is offering him guidance? This 59 and a bunch of 50s Strat's.
    Yeah! Seems like everytime I open Instagram he's playing a new 50's Strat, then today I saw the LP. Wonder what's happened to make him suddenly start buying all these guitars. Scrolling down his Instagram it's like a new guitar every couple of days! Scroll down a bit further and he's just bought a Lambo as well.....
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    Re: Current bursts for sale...

    Quote Originally Posted by thxphotog View Post
    Here's a pic. He's been buying a ton of guitars of late. I think maybe JB is offering him guidance? This 59 and a bunch of 50s Strat's.



    I promise you Joe didn't offer him advice on this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDaughtry View Post
    I promise you Joe didn't offer him advice on this one.

    :-)

    I know what you mean regarding this 59. Neal did though thank Joe in one of his Strat acquisition posts. Maybe thanking him for inspiration.

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    Re: Current bursts for sale...

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    Neck pocket and control cavity on the Heritage burst. I’m told opening bid will start at $175k.
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    Re: Current bursts for sale...

    Quote Originally Posted by CDaughtry View Post
    I promise you Joe didn't offer him advice on this one.
    What do you mean by that?

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    Re: Current bursts for sale...

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick21 View Post
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    Neck pocket and control cavity on the Heritage burst. I’m told opening bid will start at $175k.
    So with the buyer's fee, that brings the opening bid/reserve to $218K. I'd be surprised if it gets much traction. The Burst market is beyond picky right now, and likely to remain so (for lots of reasons). If the seller and HA really wanted to move it, they'd make it a no-reserve auction, and see what happens.

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  18. #378

    Re: Current bursts for sale...

    Quote Originally Posted by sws1 View Post
    What do you mean by that?
    Was that a UK burst?

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    Re: Current bursts for sale...

    Quote Originally Posted by thxphotog View Post
    Here's a pic. He's been buying a ton of guitars of late. I think maybe JB is offering him guidance? This 59 and a bunch of 50s Strat's.

    I'm gonna see him this weekend and will get more info.
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  20. #380

    Re: Current bursts for sale...

    Quote Originally Posted by viktornemeth View Post
    Was that a UK burst?
    Yes - offered on Gary Winterflood's site (Guitar Avenue) since quite some time.

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    Re: Current bursts for sale...

    Paulette showed up at RJV Guitars for sale:
    https://www.rjvguitars.com/product/2...dard-paulette-

    169,000 euro
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    Re: Current bursts for sale...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Wittrock View Post
    Paulette showed up at RJV Guitars for sale:
    https://www.rjvguitars.com/product/2...dard-paulette-

    169,000 euro
    Does that seem a stout price for a refin, even one this nice?

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    Re: Current bursts for sale...

    Quote Originally Posted by DrRobert View Post
    Does that seem a stout price for a refin, even one this nice?
    The market will decide.
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    Re: Current bursts for sale...

    Lou is selling one of his. A 1960 and considering offers around $375k.

    Last edited by mipstoo; 10-01-19 at 01:25 AM.

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    Re: Current bursts for sale...

    Quote Originally Posted by DrRobert View Post
    Does that seem a stout price for a refin, even one this nice?
    We will see. The seller has it on consignment, so I assume the price setting is done mainly by the owner.

    That makes three refin Bursts for sale in the Netherlands.

    Gibson Les Paul Standard Original 1958 Amsterdam Burst #8 6799 - €159,000
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    Gibson Les Paul Standard 1960 'Burst' - €129,000
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    Original 1959 Gibson Les Paul Standard “Paulette” - €169,000
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    Quote Originally Posted by mipstoo View Post
    We will see. The seller has it on consignment, so I assume the price setting is done mainly by the owner.

    That makes three refin Bursts for sale in the Netherlands.

    Gibson Les Paul Standard Original 1958 Amsterdam Burst #8 6799 - €159,000
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    Gibson Les Paul Standard 1960 'Burst' - €129,000
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    Original 1959 Gibson Les Paul Standard “Paulette” - €169,000
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    A refinished Burst is worth approximately what a refinished GT of the same era is worth--perhaps a bit more because of the centerseam top. IMO, trying to sell them for MORE than an ORIGINAL finish Goldtop is an exercise in futility, but that's up to them...

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    Re: Current bursts for sale...

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich R View Post
    A refinished Burst is worth approximately what a refinished GT of the same era is worth--perhaps a bit more because of the centerseam top.
    I disagree. My experience shows refin Bursts easily sell higher than refin PAF Goldtops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Wittrock View Post
    I disagree. My experience shows refin Bursts easily sell higher than refin PAF Goldtops.
    I agree as figured maple sells for more than a refin Goldtop, also very easy to see why with the figured maple top versus Goldtops

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Gringo View Post
    I agree as figured maple sells for more than a refin Goldtop, also very easy to see why with the figured maple top versus Goldtops
    I get it, and I admit to some exaggeration. However, the prices posted for the refin Bursts were well above what an original finsh GT would sell for, and I think it will be very tough to find buyers at those prices. No biggie, just my two cents

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich R View Post
    I get it, and I admit to some exaggeration. However, the prices posted for the refin Bursts were well above what an original finsh GT would sell for, and I think it will be very tough to find buyers at those prices. No biggie, just my two cents
    The 58 in Amsterdam is sold.

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    Re: Current bursts for sale...

    And this one: https://www.my1960gibsonburst.com/purchase

    Already discussed in the «Under the bed...» thread.

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    Re: Current bursts for sale...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jean-Christophe View Post
    The 58 in Amsterdam is sold.
    Is it? Well, there's a sucker born every minute...

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    Re: Current bursts for sale...

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich R View Post
    Is it? Well, there's a sucker born every minute...
    What do you mean ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jean-Christophe View Post
    What do you mean ?
    I assume he's referring to the relatively high price for a refin.
    If I could choose between the three, I would pick the dark burst from Max, but also not at that price.

    I assume this wasn't the price paid either, but you never know.

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    Re: Current bursts for sale...

    Quote Originally Posted by mipstoo View Post
    I assume he's referring to the relatively high price for a refin.
    If I could choose between the three, I would pick the dark burst from Max, but also not at that price.

    I assume this wasn't the price paid either, but you never know.
    That guitar had many issues besides being a refin. Some of those issues were made less noticeable by the refin. Several cracks in the body, and a bad heal crack were enough to put me off. I don't think it was the better deal of those three.
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